Uk Overkill?

[Acidd_UK]

Originally posted by sjt19
And no, if a guy hears you coming, and you shoot him in the pack, he will spin every time. If you shoot him in the head, he wont spin. The Americans have been doing it for years, it will happen over here more and more as well. Live with it! Or if you cant stop playing. You gonna stop playing? Are you , are you, are you?

This thread has interested me for a number of reasons, but I've tried to stay out of it. However, this post sums up everything thats wrong with tourney ball - certain players (especially in the higher divisions) seem to have the attitude that playing on is ok. Now this post is suggesting that it's compeltely normal to spin on a mugger even when you know that he has you bang to rights. I'm sorry but I think this is total BS. Attitudes like this will destroy our sport.

Basically you're saying that if you don't like people cheating, then stop playing! That is such a bad attitude to take I don't even know what else to say!

PS:

Originally posted by JoseDominguez
And since when does being Gay make someone soft? the only thing they do that I don't has got to hurt.

LOL!

 

[tubbie]

Stop crying about this "bonus" balls, when i get shot out and have to leave the field, i do this as slow as possible, and sometimes try on purpose to get in the line of fire of a opposing player in a dangerous position in order to distract him or something a like that.This means getting sometimes up to 10 balls extra well that the risk of playing paintball.

About mugging, always try to shoot the player in the head or back, make him feel he's being hit, and always shoot at least 3 times when you'r playing competition paintball.....suckers always try to spin when you shoot them on a the pack, never when you shoot them in their neck a couple of times.

Tubbie

 

[A.B]

if i'm gonna mug someone i'm gonna make sure they know they're gone- none of that spinning on me bullsh*t- if i've caught you lookin the other way expect two between the shoulder blades. Players leaving the field and gettin hit- move faster!!!! i ain't gonna be gunning for you but you walk thro my paint - tough! Players sitting there waiting for the big bad paintballs to stop hitting their barricade before leaving the field- hey you're playing on, you've been elimintated get the fook off the field, you stay in i'm gonna drill you again!

the game is advancing- more paint is in the air, you're gonna get hit more.

each player can dictate their own personnel level of protection on field- if you worry bout taking hits to the head, hands etc wear the appropriate clothing. that said i'm certainly not advocating the deliberate shooting of peeps heads- there's a lovely big back - shoot that!

Laters A.B

 

[ices]

Sure wouldn't like to get mugged by a guy with that A4 speed...ouch.

 

[Acidd_UK]

Another point - I think there's a very clear line between taking hits as you leave the field because

1. You are running out though lines of paint / the opposition hasn't registered that you are eliminated / any other accidental balls that hit you

and

2. Opposition players are still deliberatly shooting you even though it is clear you are eliminated and leaving the field.


The people that say it's all part of the game - I agree that point 1 is all part of the game, but I don't think part 2 is. Those people who say it's OK - would you be happy to be mugged by being deliberatly shot in the back of the neck once? Twice? Ten times? Fifty times? Is that 'part of the game'?

 

[Acidd_UK]

Edit: Double post - admin delete please!

 

[Burb]

2. Opposition players are still deliberatly shooting you even though it is clear you are eliminated and leaving the field.

Thats called getting bonus balled for the sake of it, were talking about extra 'love' whilst mugging. But then again if you've ever had your team destroyed by a DMW then im sure you'd take a few shots at the player slowly walking off the field??

Simple solution, RUN OFF THE FIELD!!! Not only will you hopefully draw the opponents guns, you wont look like a cry baby when you get hit...

would you be happy to be mugged by being deliberatly shot in the back of the neck once? Twice? Ten times? Fifty times? Is that 'part of the game'?

Of course it is, its paintball mate.

 

[sjt19]

Originally posted by Acidd_UK
This thread has interested me for a number of reasons, but I've tried to stay out of it. However, this post sums up everything thats wrong with tourney ball - certain players (especially in the higher divisions) seem to have the attitude that playing on is ok. Now this post is suggesting that it's compeltely normal to spin on a mugger even when you know that he has you bang to rights. I'm sorry but I think this is total BS. Attitudes like this will destroy our sport.

Basically you're saying that if you don't like people cheating, then stop playing! That is such a bad attitude to take I don't even know what else to say!

The majotiry of the time where i am watching or playing, mugged people usually spin on the mugger. Its a natural reaction. Ofter i have seen balls bounce off players when they are mugged, and as such, people spin and play on. Also if you shoot a guy on the pack, he probably wont feel it, and will spin on you when he sees you come past, or hears you come by. All i was saying was that shooting him in the head, as the Americans do, will combat the spinning.

I am not saying that if you dont like cheating stop playing at all Acid, you misunderstood me. I didnt mean that stop playing if you dont like the spinning element, i meant that he should dtop playing if he does not like getting mugged ni the head, or neck, or back. It is part of the game. Clear now?

Baca, the Americans have almost every aspect of playing, finely tuned to an art. From sliding and diving, to mugging and shooting on the run. They are superior, plain and simple. When an American player mugs a player, they shoot at the head more from what i have seen. In these instances i have seen far less spinning. So yes, bunkering players needs to become part of training, the Americans i have talked to pracctice it regularly

 

[Gadget]

Originally posted by sjt19
..And no, if a guy hears you coming, and you shoot him in the pack, he will spin every time. If you shoot him in the head, he wont spin. The Americans have been doing it for years, it will happen over here more and more as well. Live with it! Or if you cant stop playing. You gonna stop playing? Are you , are you, are you?

Live with it? Wtf? You're saying that we should accept cheating and deal with it by deliberately shooting people in painful locations to compensate?

Just cos they do it in America doesn't mean its the best way forward. Maybe we should all throw tantrums when we get eliminated and chuck our markers around? Hey, they do it in X-ball so it MUST be cool!

I'd always liked the fact that we took the best bits of the American game and stripped out all the useless pap - but it seems as though recently lots of people have been fully embracing the US game lemming-style... don't even get me started on middle-class sales reps from the terrifyig ghettos of Chigwell referring to their markers as 'gats', gawd it's like listening to Vanilla Ice wannabes, sad.

For the people in the thread who seem to think the game is all about inflicting or receiving pain...erm, no it's about HAVING FUN. I'm sure there must be 'exclusive' clubs you can join if the idea of a sweaty bloke hurting you is what floats your boat, no need to drag your perversions out into the public arena.

 

[Acidd_UK]

Of course it is, its paintball mate.

So you if you got shot in the back of the neck, at point blank range, deliberatly, 50 times, and you were seriously injured, you would say "Oh well, thats a shame, it's just the risk I run playing paintball."

I doubt it.

I accept that playing paintball, we are going to get shot. Sometimes, we are going to get shot alot. But I don't think that means we want or deserve to be shot that often. My point is, our sport (like many others) carries risks. However, I think it's our duty as responsible ballers (and adults) to minimise the risk. One good way to do that is to stop shooting someone when they have been eliminated.

I accept that if I get mugged, I am likely to take a few hits. Thats fine. What I don't think is fine is a player putting a few into me, then registering that they have eliminated me, then putting a few more into me "to make sure I don't spin" / "to give me extra love" / whatever.

The problem is some players spinning on their mugger when they know full well they have been eliminated - I don't think the solution should be for us to punish every player by giving them extra love, it should be to crack down on the spinners (I have spun on muggers in the past, but I've never really thought about the long term implications until now).

I accept that maybe the hits bounce but lets be honest, if someone puts 3+ shots into your back/pack/head at mugging range there is virtually no chance that they all bounced and even if they did then they are likely to put more into you until you are eliminated.

I would rather get mugged by a few shots and walk. If very occasionally I found out later that they all bounced, well it would be a pisser, but overall it would be a better situation than getting drilled every single time I was mugged.

I think the point I am trying to make (somewhat long-windedly, I'll admit), is that I think it would make our sport better if some players treated their opposition with a little more respect.

As for deliberatly shooting someone in the head - I accept the reasons for it, however I just hope it doesn't end up with someone being seriously injured in a mug. I don't really want to be forced by the rules to wear full head protection when playing, but I can see it happening if there is an incident. Personally I would always go for the square of someones back, simply because I am a crap shot and that's the biggest target