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UK Masters - 270 Limit

Yeah, people tend to be great at convincing themselves their paint is good, especially teams who are sponsored by a particular brand...


I find alot of people say "this paint doesnt break in your gun" but when you check their barrel after a game it has had a break.

Or conversely they say "this paint doesnt bounce" when they are getting the odd bounce, they just dont realise it.



I just ignore what people say and bounce test the paint for myself...
 

+TysoN+

bring the pain
Oct 29, 2004
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Our teams paint was fine, dont for 1 second think that he shot it from his own gun then ran after it to catch it......
why would i think he would run after his own ball?

the game that it happened in was against TPB, so really you need to find out what they were shooting, and if it was a premium brand, then maybe then you could come up with a new paintball shell compound...

and why do i need to come up with a new shell compound i had no problem with breaking paintballs on people, the point i was trying to make was 270 is more than enuff to break paint on people,

johnmassive

First of all anyone who says that they have never bought premium paint and witnessed a bounce with such paint are either blind, ignorant or a complete gay liar. It is possible that bad batches are circulated and distributed (supplier acknowledge this and will always refund a bad batch).
all paint will bounce off certain areas ie baggy croch area, legs are also ones that i get a high amout of bounce from but if paint doesent break on some ones chest ,head or back then ur paint is simply not good enuff and yes bad batches do happen but bad enuff for some one to be able to catch??
 

johnmassive

Spitfire Factory
Sep 5, 2004
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Originally posted by +TysoN+
270 is more than enuff to break paint on people,
You can blow a paintball through a barrel and reach enough velocity for it to break on someone...its still not a great idea though.

Originally posted by +TysoN+
yes bad batches do happen but bad enuff for some one to be able to catch??
You already found it hard to believe that catching a ball was possible. Now your saying thats its hard to believe a batch can be produced bad enough to have someone catch it (I assume this from the double question marks).

Therefore, if you think its unlikely that paint can be produced incorrectly so that it was tough enough for someone to catch, do you think that catching it may be down to the velocity it was travelling then......?
 

Wind_Speed

The moody one
Therefore, if you think its unlikely that paint can be produced incorrectly so that it was tough enough for someone to catch, do you think that catching it may be down to the velocity it was travelling then......?
When someone can put that in dummy terms can u gimme a shout, my mind is now boggled...

but i'm with the Angels on their decision to cut down to 270.
Now for my mind boggler...
When a paintball is shot it immediately begins to loose velocity. Paintballs are designed to break at a much lower velocity like 150-200? Hence...
You can blow a paintball through a barrel and reach enough velocity for it to break on someone...
They are fired at 300 so they can make it across a long field and be at 150-200 or there abouts when they reach the other side.
On a small field like Lincoln the balls have no need to travel as far so even though they leave the barrel at 270, by the time they reach the other end of the field they are travalling at exactly the same speed as a 300 ball on a long field... right???

Or am i just bein a mong? :p
 

+TysoN+

bring the pain
Oct 29, 2004
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i never said paint couldnt be made dodgy! and if it was caught ur right it could be the velocity it could be bad paint, but that makes me think that they player was shooting no were near 270 fps more like 50 fps, but why would any player want to risk catching a paintball and it breaking on them ?

my orginal point again was 270 fps is more than enuff to break paint! and i think the change in velocity was just the lincon round because of the size of the fields, ther thread answered
 

Dskize

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Dec 6, 2004
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Originally posted by johnmassive


The point is when you set it to 270fps, a sensible player will have it a little lower, and compile this with the drop off of high rof, then your shooting strings of what can be bouncing bullets.

[edited for grammar]
I think this has the most relevance guys i had spikes so at a 300fps limit i would chrono to 290 for leeway so if i have to chrono down to 270 then some of my lowest readings on the chronos were in the 250- 255 region which is way low.
 

|TPB|=SULLY=

"nil taurus excramentum"
Jan 20, 2004
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that picture was a bit off puttin to the lesser endowed community methinks guy,lol rofl.as for the paint the fuego paint we udsed at 270 was perfect yellow ignite was cool& thnx to andy cruk from inferno for the lend of his belt wen i 4got mine & he was usin the orange & it was gr8 aswell ,my eblade is always under the 3mark& runs around the 250 & was gr8 with fuego& the 05 speed of hooli's was gr8,imfact we had a gr8 day down to fuego paint coz we been losin allot of games coz of severe not breakin & thus me thinkin its **** compared to fuego,1 thing it aint shipped around the world & declimatised then climatised ect,so fuego is the way to go ,if it breaks under 270 well use it!.its like anarchy but well cheaper,so tcgan get ya freebe paint out for this shout m8y WINK NOD WINK !,ITS SEEMS TO BE A SENSIBLE CHOICE TO GO FOR THE PAINT THAT HASNT BEEN HANDBALLED FROM 1 END OF THE WORLD to the other!. its all in the uk baby.;) :D :cool: :)


watch out j c is abOUT!;)
 

johnmassive

Spitfire Factory
Sep 5, 2004
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Ion Noob
Paintballs can break at low velocity, no one here is disputing that. The fact that a paintball could be caught without breaking mid flight is seriously weird.

I am a mid player, who was just before the 50, from memory I was shot out by their mid player, on the way off the field just as i stood a ball was shot towards my hand and was caught, I dont even wear gloves for them to have cushioned it. The catch may have been a fluke, but the fact it didn’t break didn’t surprise me on this particular day, regardless of how close we were.

Dskize thanks for reiterating that point, not everything leaving you barrel will be at 270 plus with each passing distance the speed reducing.

I'm not trying to take any glory away from the Lincoln event, I thought it was great and I rank it just as well as Uttoxeter; I weren’t even bothered about the bogs, and will happily return there for round 8. It just my opinion, and others, that a decrement of 30fps caused more problems than what it solved.
 

JoseDominguez

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Oct 25, 2002
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Originally posted by Wind_Speed
When someone can put that in dummy terms can u gimme a shout, my mind is now boggled...

but i'm with the Angels on their decision to cut down to 270.
Now for my mind boggler...
When a paintball is shot it immediately begins to loose velocity. Paintballs are designed to break at a much lower velocity like 150-200? Hence...

They are fired at 300 so they can make it across a long field and be at 150-200 or there abouts when they reach the other side.
On a small field like Lincoln the balls have no need to travel as far so even though they leave the barrel at 270, by the time they reach the other end of the field they are travalling at exactly the same speed as a 300 ball on a long field... right???

Or am i just bein a mong? :p
Pretty much spot on with the speed at the other end (I found a graph) :)
And even the best paint can turn to crap if stored badly...... even that last pot in your battlepack that you never get to..... how bad is that going to be if you don't cycle your pots?
 

SHOCKKKK

New Member
Apr 22, 2005
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with fuego& the 05 speed of hooli's was gr8,imfact we had a gr8 day down to fuego paint coz we been losin allot of games coz of severe not breakin
well we used severe and finished top off our division you may well have beaten us sully but for the bouncers you had off players in our team using hovid / fuego i saw quite a few teams gettin bouncers with it but then it was a warm day also its not the fact that people went out at 270 cause most didnt they will have gon out at 250 to make sure they didnt go over or some even less i went out with a reg problem on my timmy and couldent get my velocity past 200 and i played all day like it and had loadsa kills havin been in the paintball industry for maybe 20 years ive seen brands and indeed lots off people come and go but paint has always been the same sometimes its good sometimes its bad doesent really matter who its made by service and loyalty are the most important thing in my opinion .


ps sorry about the spellin im in a rush lol