What governing bodies? paintball doesn't have any other than the larger PB companies that govern the prices of equipment...
TV - Are we REALLY ready for it?
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People talk about paintball being on TV and think that the best option is coverage (live or delayed) similar to Super 12 rugby or Premier League Soccer (for you north of the equator).
The format we need to be looking at is a "highlight" show - and I've said this before - like the World Rally Championship coverage (which I am assuming is the same the world over).
A one hour show - showing all the glory, exciting stuff - with interviews, gear shots and the like. Simililar (but more focused) as the PB TV that Pure Promotions are doing for the NPPL.
Just my .0072p (that 2c NZ converted
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The format we need to be looking at is a "highlight" show - and I've said this before - like the World Rally Championship coverage (which I am assuming is the same the world over).
A one hour show - showing all the glory, exciting stuff - with interviews, gear shots and the like. Simililar (but more focused) as the PB TV that Pure Promotions are doing for the NPPL.
Just my .0072p (that 2c NZ converted
)
my turn
Right:
Having watched euro x ball i can only comment on that not the american version so here goes:-
Personally i don't like it. Watched a couple of games and got pretty bored. Same old breakouts same old tactics.
From an outsiders point of view my lady friend has come to watch me play. She's usually bored stupid (weird aint she?) Don't think X ball would encourage her to enjoy it. To be i think paintball is crap to watch unless your actually involved in playing it.
Look at all other sports greats, atheletics, football, rugby, baseball american football are all sports played from a young age and easy to understand. You grow into loving it. Once you get old and fat and can't do it anymore you'll quite happily watch people who are better than you play. Paintball aint like that. Most people will view it as an extreme sport which will attract a select few to play it.
Another thing is that if you happened to flick through some channels and see a paintball programme (x ball or whatever) you could think hey thats looks neat i'd love to have a go. Cue punter ball in the woods. (Great )
Or £1500 outlay for top gear to play tourney ball which STILL won't get you into the x ball scene.
Basically after this long winded rant i'll finish by saying that so far all x ball has done for me is stop the top pro teams coming over here to play ball. Woohoo hooray for X ball. I didn't really enjoy watching Bob's boys and Dynnasty go at it last year. Or Lanche and aftershock. No really i didn't
Right:
Having watched euro x ball i can only comment on that not the american version so here goes:-
Personally i don't like it. Watched a couple of games and got pretty bored. Same old breakouts same old tactics.
From an outsiders point of view my lady friend has come to watch me play. She's usually bored stupid (weird aint she?) Don't think X ball would encourage her to enjoy it. To be i think paintball is crap to watch unless your actually involved in playing it.
Look at all other sports greats, atheletics, football, rugby, baseball american football are all sports played from a young age and easy to understand. You grow into loving it. Once you get old and fat and can't do it anymore you'll quite happily watch people who are better than you play. Paintball aint like that. Most people will view it as an extreme sport which will attract a select few to play it.
Another thing is that if you happened to flick through some channels and see a paintball programme (x ball or whatever) you could think hey thats looks neat i'd love to have a go. Cue punter ball in the woods. (Great
)Or £1500 outlay for top gear to play tourney ball which STILL won't get you into the x ball scene.
Basically after this long winded rant i'll finish by saying that so far all x ball has done for me is stop the top pro teams coming over here to play ball. Woohoo hooray for X ball. I didn't really enjoy watching Bob's boys and Dynnasty go at it last year. Or Lanche and aftershock. No really i didn't
Ok, thats it!! Wake up guys and gals, paintball aint ever gonna get onto match of the day! It aint ever gonna be a televised league and it sure as hell aint ever gonna get a prime time slot on Sky Sports. That is FACT.
Paintball is a niche activity that appeals to a small (numerically) if broad demographic of the television viewing public. If you want paint ball to get on television then it will be in the form of extreme sports documentaries, team based fly on the wall films or highlights packages shown on late night sports networks.
There is a possibility of one off documentaries being shown on Sky Sports and this has serious potential. But it will never be a long running, large audience programme.
There are so MANY THINGS WORNG WITH PAINTBALL AT THE MOMENT that we need to sort tese out and stop looking for the quick road to mainstream acceptability
Paintball is a niche activity that appeals to a small (numerically) if broad demographic of the television viewing public. If you want paint ball to get on television then it will be in the form of extreme sports documentaries, team based fly on the wall films or highlights packages shown on late night sports networks.
There is a possibility of one off documentaries being shown on Sky Sports and this has serious potential. But it will never be a long running, large audience programme.
There are so MANY THINGS WORNG WITH PAINTBALL AT THE MOMENT that we need to sort tese out and stop looking for the quick road to mainstream acceptability
im pritty new to paintball only been in 2 tournys and from what iv seen its not on the tv because well who would watch it?? it wouldnt be the spectators at the tournys why cos there are no spectators exrpt from the other teams
the tv station would never get a few million people from work dont even know what paintball is doesnt matter if the sport is ready the public aint
the tv station would never get a few million people from work dont even know what paintball is doesnt matter if the sport is ready the public aint
no, no, no, no
A thousand times no.
For a million and one reasons:
-Our sport will look like ****. We haven't got the rules, fields, teams, and CHEATING sorted out yet enough to have something understandable.
-As tyger mentioned, players are crap with the cameras. I've seen some DVD's that had the WORST interviews I've ever seen. Sample scene:
Interviewer: You got shot on that move, what do you think led to...
Player: NO, NO, I ****ing shot the **** outta that guy.
Interviewer: (blinks)
-Not a decent way to film it yet. It'd take at least 5 or 6 cameras around a field, and maybe some helmet cams as well as a diagram to give punters even the remotest idea what was going on.
I could go on, but I'm lazy. Also, I think Colin brought up a good point: are we all ready to have our asses kicked by kids who are naturally great at paintball? As the old joke goes:
Michaelangelo gets to heaven, and he asks God, "God, was I the greatest painter ever?"
God says, "No, the greatest painter ever would have been Joe Schmoe."
Mike: Joe Schmoe?
God: He never touched a paintbrush.
I swear to you, there is some 9 year old kid out there who has never touched a paintgun, and one day, he will play, and his natural talent will make all our training look like ****. Are you ready to have your ass kicked by a sudden influx of new players, some of whom are just gonna be damn good?
I'm not.
-Mike
A thousand times no.
For a million and one reasons:
-Our sport will look like ****. We haven't got the rules, fields, teams, and CHEATING sorted out yet enough to have something understandable.
-As tyger mentioned, players are crap with the cameras. I've seen some DVD's that had the WORST interviews I've ever seen. Sample scene:
Interviewer: You got shot on that move, what do you think led to...
Player: NO, NO, I ****ing shot the **** outta that guy.
Interviewer: (blinks)
-Not a decent way to film it yet. It'd take at least 5 or 6 cameras around a field, and maybe some helmet cams as well as a diagram to give punters even the remotest idea what was going on.
I could go on, but I'm lazy. Also, I think Colin brought up a good point: are we all ready to have our asses kicked by kids who are naturally great at paintball? As the old joke goes:
Michaelangelo gets to heaven, and he asks God, "God, was I the greatest painter ever?"
God says, "No, the greatest painter ever would have been Joe Schmoe."
Mike: Joe Schmoe?
God: He never touched a paintbrush.
I swear to you, there is some 9 year old kid out there who has never touched a paintgun, and one day, he will play, and his natural talent will make all our training look like ****. Are you ready to have your ass kicked by a sudden influx of new players, some of whom are just gonna be damn good?
I'm not.
-Mike
is this a joke?
please tell me I missed something...
Pete
is this a joke... or are you actually saying the reason we shouldn't try to expand the sport to TV is because YOU are in fear of having your arsed kicked?
please tell me I missed something...
Pete
Exactly what I'm saying...
Only not at all. It's a simple way of driving my point home, though maybe you didn't follow it. Basically, many 'ballers are proud of being in a little-known sport, and good at it. They want the sport to be known, but on the other hand, they like it being "their sport". Best thing I can compare it to is liking an underground band. You like them being "your" group, because they're not known by everyone. You want other people to hear how great they are, but it's a little **** when people who just jumped on the bandwagon start misquoting the lyrics to you, forcing you to hit them in the teeth with a brick...
Anyway, I think I made a point in there somewhere.
-Mike
Only not at all. It's a simple way of driving my point home, though maybe you didn't follow it. Basically, many 'ballers are proud of being in a little-known sport, and good at it. They want the sport to be known, but on the other hand, they like it being "their sport". Best thing I can compare it to is liking an underground band. You like them being "your" group, because they're not known by everyone. You want other people to hear how great they are, but it's a little **** when people who just jumped on the bandwagon start misquoting the lyrics to you, forcing you to hit them in the teeth with a brick...
Anyway, I think I made a point in there somewhere.
-Mike
using your comparison...
you would rather the band stayed small and unsuccesful in there chosen industry just so they could be YOUR band...
that has to be the most ludicrous thing I have heard in a long time... I do appreciate that everyone is entitled to their own opion but surely your have to realise you are, at the very most, in the very small minoirty of people that think this way... if not the only person that thinks this way when it comes to paintball...
bless you...
you would rather the band stayed small and unsuccesful in there chosen industry just so they could be YOUR band...
that has to be the most ludicrous thing I have heard in a long time... I do appreciate that everyone is entitled to their own opion but surely your have to realise you are, at the very most, in the very small minoirty of people that think this way... if not the only person that thinks this way when it comes to paintball...
bless you...
Sigh. (get on defensive, squeezes into WAY too tiny barricade, realises he is ****ed) Ok, I'm not saying that I'd rather paintball stayed small. However, I am definately saying that I'm torn. I want our sport to grow, but I don't want people to get the wrong idea. The main thing that I don't want is for the sport to get a ****ty rep. We sorta get one chance to establish ourselves as a fair, exciting sport played by halfway normal people. If we get on TV and screw that up (people wiping, throwing guns, arguing with reffs all the time), it'll be a while before we're on tv again. Plus, even if we get all that sorted, we may not be filmed well and seem impossible to understand from an outsider's point of view. Basically, this whole thread is about whether we're ready for TV or not. I wish we were, but I don't think we are. Sorry, my opinion.
-Mike
-Mike