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Gups

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Quite honestly i don't see what all the fuss is about. We all know the media like to hype and make things sound interesting in order to grab the readers/viewers attention. That's all that has happened here. We didn't bill ourselves as 'among the top competitive teams in the country' that was the journalist's interpretation of the info i provided him with. When you get the media interested you are pretty much in their hands as they can put whatever slant they want on something.
As others have said, it's just one more bit of coverage and publicity for paintball in the UK.

But i'm sure it will cause much gastric regurgitation for Live Thols to learn that Sky TV interviewed us at the PAL today.......you'd better keep a really BIG sick bag at the ready for this one m8 :p ;)
 

Red_Merkin

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gups,
the fuss isn't about Tsunami, it's about Hatts claim that his tournament will produce the best team in England.

Sorry that the Tsunami thread go hijacked, but ya can't go on saying stuff and not expect someone to respond.

Nexus, Shock and Tigers? Pardon me...I didn't realise they were the only paintball teams in the country that matter. I know. I'll just pack up my tin pot operation and we'll all bask in their glory...after all if us "small time" operators can never be as good as them what's the point in playing at all?
No one is suggesting that the PA league should dissappear, from all reports it's a very good tournament, but don't kid yourself with false claims about what it means to be the winner of the PA cup. THe winner of the PA cup will be only that, the winner. Not the undisputed best team in England, just the winner of the event.

Until the best teams in the country play your event, you have not right, and if as a promoter the best teams arn't interested, then you have to ask yourself why?

And Nexus Shock and the Tigers? well they are the best we have to offer, so on the super elite level they're the only teams that really matter. I'm not sure that anyone (appart from you Hatts) will dissagree.


But I'll answer your point. The PA is important. I haven't over inflated the value of anything, but sadly it's important for reasons I doubt someone like you will ever understand.
The PA could be very important, it has a lot of potential, and a lot of really good ideas, but until the best teams play it, it won't produce a title worth playing for. Sorry but that's a fact. Until then, the really good teams are going to stick with competiting for something worth playing for, like the Millennium Series for example... At least there you get to play the best teams.
 

MrPink

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Well said Red:)

I have actually attended a leg of the PAL (the weather-stricken 2nd round) and would say that (despite the Weather Gods interfering) it is an extremely well-run DOMESTIC tourney series, but in no way can you compare the current standard of competition of the PA to any Millennium series event.

I will be looking forward to seeing what sort of programme Sky puts out tho - any postive coverage is good:)


P.s Well done to Tsunami for getting the coverage, what did you do - pimp Brian out?:p :D
 

Red_Merkin

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my spies told me there was television (sky?) cameras this weekend past at the PA cup. If so, this is a huge step in the right direction...
 

LIVE THOLS

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As collin said, The subject has changed a bit sorry Tsunami peeps, congratulations, well done and all that.

Im not having a go for over hyping yourselfs I understand that was some creative writing on behalf of the bbc journalist

Originally posted by Hatts
You know if you guys put as much effort into supporting the UK paintball scene as you do into belittleing and bad mouthing those people who are actually trying to do something we might get somewhere...but hey...what do "small" operators like me know compared to your wealth and depth of knowledge? ;)
Not a lot obvously.

Originally posted by Hatts

You guys repeatedly miss the point time & time again. You really have no understanding of what we're trying to achieve or what is really going in UK paintball. But that's OK. As long as your happy in your own self congratulating little worlds then I guess we can all smile and go on about our own business...
Funnily enough I am well aware of what is going on in uk paintball. self congratulatory? yep well done me, please quote me on that.
Originally posted by Hatts


The thing is Red...there a lot more people "busting their @ss" to play the best they can, competeing to be the best they can be. THAT is a top competitor.
Maybe YOU should right your own dictionary

Originally posted by Hatts

Just because someone isn't throwing hundreds of free cases of paint at these guys and free toys and the fact that they might have lives outside of paintball doesn't alter the fact that they want to compete as best they can in their chosen sport.
Irrelivant

Originally posted by Hatts

Nexus, Shock and Tigers? Pardon me...I didn't realise they were the only paintball teams in the country that matter.
Not the only, just the best

Originally posted by Hatts

And if you would be so kind as to actually read EVERYTHING I've said, I have NEVER claimed that the winners of the PA are the "best team in the country". Such "claims" that I allegedly said such things were in fact made by other people who strangely have nothing at all to do with the PA. The only claim I made is that the winners will hold the title National Champions. Which they will....and Manchester Union currently does.
Funny that seems to be exactly what you said, please read your own post below...

Originally posted by Hatts

In all fairness if you're not taking part you can't really claim to be the best in the country can you?

Originally posted by Hatts

By your argument we may as well not have the FA League as EUFA is such a bigger and more impotrant competition that the FA doesn't matter. Lets just sack all the teams that don't play European football cos they're obviously not as good as those that do.
But the FA doesxnt pretend to be as important as the UAFA does it? more importantly the FA still has all the top teams competing. Can the PA say the same?

Originally posted by Hatts

To address another point...the other series in the UK, which I would like to point out the PA fully supports, are distinctly regional. Whilst having no restrictions on geography they are generally referred to as the South West, South East, Midlands & Nothern Leagues and in truth you will find only rare excptions from outside of those regions taking part and even then not with regularity. So yes I do say the PA is the only National League in the country because we have teams from all over the UK competeing (note that...very important word that...competeing)every month.
Did you metion that for a reason?


Originally posted by Hatts
...and still hasn't answered my question...
Sorry I seem to have missed your 'question' your posts are quite long and mostly not relevant, its hard to sort the 'question' from the nonsense. I aplogise, please ask again in a shorter not quite so boring post and I promise to answer. Why the hell would I want to catch you? Im mearly having a disscusion. Mr. Fish...

Originally posted by Hatts

I'm impressed tho..."silly little man"...wow, you must have spent hours thinking up that one. You'll really have to do better than that to catch this fish :D
Not really, Its was a pretty obvious comment to someone who's clearly obsessed with their own importance. Try to keep up.


Originally posted by Hatts

But I'll answer your point. The PA is important. I haven't over inflated the value of anything, but sadly it's important for reasons I doubt someone like you will ever understand.
Funny how its only you saying that, bit of a coincidense dont you think?

Originally posted by Hatts

Actually I kind of pity you.
Im sure you do.


Little man.;)
 
Originally posted by Red_Merkin
gups,
the fuss isn't about Tsunami, it's about Hatts claim that his tournament will produce the best team in England.

Sorry that the Tsunami thread go hijacked, but ya can't go on saying stuff and not expect someone to respond.



No one is suggesting that the PA league should dissappear, from all reports it's a very good tournament, but don't kid yourself with false claims about what it means to be the winner of the PA cup. THe winner of the PA cup will be only that, the winner. Not the undisputed best team in England, just the winner of the event.

Until the best teams in the country play your event, you have not right, and if as a promoter the best teams arn't interested, then you have to ask yourself why?

And Nexus Shock and the Tigers? well they are the best we have to offer, so on the super elite level they're the only teams that really matter. I'm not sure that anyone (appart from you Hatts) will dissagree.




The PA could be very important, it has a lot of potential, and a lot of really good ideas, but until the best teams play it, it won't produce a title worth playing for. Sorry but that's a fact. Until then, the really good teams are going to stick with competiting for something worth playing for, like the Millennium Series for example... At least there you get to play the best teams.
See...now there you go again saying "Hatts claimed this..." and "Hatts said that..."

Where do you come by such information I wonder...I think it's amazing the stuff I get credited with saying, and with me being such a "small time" operator too it's incredible to think anything that I say could rouse such a response

Might I suggest that you check what I actually did say (and repeated on many occaisions) before you start hurling accusations and allegations...otherwise you stand a very good chance of making yourself look a bit silly ;) ...not that I'd be one to stand in your way...

...for those who have just joined us, (or in some cases just arrived on planet earth) ;)... I have never, ever, on any occaision made such claims...frankly I'm at a bit of a loss to understand why people keep insisting that I did make these claims...unless of course you desperately need someone else to join in with your fantasy? hmmm? :D