Tourny Marshalling

[woodsta]

Just a question to all the P8ntballers out there, the big question. why does every single team out there, have problems with every call out there? No matter what happens, wat ever call they make people complain, storm of the field etc! WHY.. wats the point, In any other game RUgby, American football, wat ever calls get made, it's part of the game, they dont argue, atempt to tell you that they have not got shot on the peak?? and when you kinda tell them they have, in a middle of a game they scream trying to take their goggs off!???? why!!!,
The point im tryin to make is that everyone does it, people watching get pretty bad impressions of the game! I have serious considered stoppin compeltely cos of it, So what is the answer???

 

[Charlie]

Alright Chris m8,

I suppose its because the marshall are made up of fellow players and teams. In every other sport to ref a game means you have to pass both written and practical tests before you can ref a game properly (I had to pass a rugby written test for GCSE PE coursework ). This is to make sure that the refs has a complete understanding of what the rules are and that they can spot infringements and enforce the rules. However in this sport we do not have the same sort of structure (governing body) that can implement these sorts of things for us. I know Sparklie is trying to do something with her academy but it is not the same. So until we can get fully qualified marshalls (and lots of them), or teams that play and marshall get these sorts of qualifications, each team out there is going to see a call and believe that it may have been unfair and that they would have not made the same call in that situation. So until we can get rid of that attitude (ok it will never completely go away but at least the people we have a go at will be qualified and we can't argue with that!) there will always be arguements over calls on the field. We just have to live with it.

 

[Gogger]

why does every single team out there, have problems with every call out there?

Get real! It's not every single team! I know it looks bad, because it's the crapy complaining ones that stand out and stick in your mind. You just have to try to ignore it, rise above it and lead by example. It's your job to show them the way it should be. You say

I have serious considered stoppin compeltely cos of it,

Isn't that the ultimate "storm off the field".
Try not to get to p*ssed off with the bad apples. Show them that you can win without being a tosser. Don't give up on the sport just yet, we need people with good attitudes and skill to continue to delelope.

 

[Buddha 3]

I'll second what Gogger says, but I'll add that it'd be even better if some people learned to lose without being a tosser.

 

[SPARKLIE CHICK]

Thanks for that but the accademy is about helping the player (existing) getting new blood into the sport and maximizing on potential.


It's not about marshalling ................ but blackey and phil those lovley guys at midlands masters have launched there own full structured marshals training school or should it be pool. they have 7 I think diffrent levels and you can't just play at it. By them time you got to silver of gold let alone platium you could run just about any thing.

yorkie is busy getting his lot UKPSF which is also what I do with my marshalls hopefully they are all fair but stong marshals. Theres nothing worse than a whishy washy call or a marshal that won't get in there.

I think untill the sport really takes off it is always going to be hard to find a full compliment of good trained marshalls some have a pride in their work, some do it for extra cash, some beacause the "have to" It's hard work most would rather be playing and once you've been in paintball for a bit as it's a small world you know every one and then it's be objective time and no favorites.

I think the futer lies with in blackeys school / pool what ever you wish to call it. With officaial trained marshalls with id bagdes who are kept informed of rule changes and if they are all going for gold or above it can't happen over night purly though experince needed to reach next stage so purly this alone would insure your pool of marshalls were up to date and knew the rules as they would need to be to progress.

just my 2p worth you know

peace love hugs and cookies

sparklie who loves marshalling

 

[goose]

Woodsta...

... have you ever actually watched any professional sports??

The only reason I ask is you say:

In any other game RUgby, American football, wat ever calls get made, it's part of the game, they dont argue,

Are you kidding? Watch an NBA game - every second call is protested - by 7' 6" giants no less. Watch a soccer game - all you see is players flopping all the pitch trying to get the refs attention. Watch an American football game - all you see is pissed off player protesting they didn't hold/late hit/facemask etc.

At the highest level of any sport - except maybe curling/golf (but wait there are no REFEREES in those sports) - do you see people dissatisfied with the judges. Hell just ask the Canadian figure skaters from the Olympics.

To bad mouth "every single team" and say that everyone has problems with calls is a little over the top, of course there will be times when there are disputes, especially when players feel they have been wronged.

Pro refs or just better qualified ones would help cut down on this, but it would never disappear. I know as a player, there is nothing that pisses me off more than seeing a reffing crew who doesn't put their heart/body into doing their job. It's hard to make a qualified call when you are half a field away hiding in behind one of those big JT plastic shields. Everyone says that the refs who don't know all the rules are the biggest problem - I disagree - the biggest problem is the refs who sit on their asses for a whole tournament and move only when yelled at. Get into the correct postition ahead of time, run from check to check, keep your eyes open - and get away from the JT shield .

goose

P.S. Nothing like a topic like this to get the blood going on a Friday

 

[Buddha 3]

Woodsta...

Originally posted by goose



Are you kidding? Watch an NBA game - every second call is protested - by 7' 6" giants no less. Watch a soccer game - all you see is players flopping all the pitch trying to get the refs attention. Watch an American football game - all you see is pissed off player protesting they didn't hold/late hit/facemask etc.

Good point.
Yet it's funny to see how these sometimes dwarflike refs (particularly the NFL has it's share of minuscule refs) are totally unfazed by these enormous guys. It's great to see a 7', 325lbs giant of a tackle try to act all snooty, and then get sent packing with his tail between his legs by a 60 year old midget!

 

[cowface]

1 bad call and the whole team is having a good fight, i watched this max ex on bravo and it showed a ref making bad calll which made a hockey player start on him, then the other team started on that player and it was 1 massive fight, now the worst thing,

2 blokes r fighting it out, then a 3rd skater comes over and run's over his fingers, NOW THAT MUST OF HURT, but the funny thing is, that bloke stood up and carried on fighting with 4 fingers missing on his right hand,

NFL is bad, surprised that it aint band.

 

[Buddha 3]

Hockey is NHL, NFL is filled with lovely, gentle people...

 

[cowface]

sorry,. i ment to say NHL not NFL, spose in NFL they have big padding to fall on