The state of the second hand market, SOMTHING NEEDS TO BE DONE!!
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As Tony said as an immediate response to this post, its a simple matter of economics. The second hand gat market is a freemarket economy, not a planned economy. This basically means, the buyer and sellers meet and establish a price which suits gives the maximum welfare to both parties. This doesnt change if one person offers say £50 for a Karnivore, because the seller will simply reject any offer that is too low. Eventually, after a series of offers on a product, a price will be agreed that is agreeable to both the seller and buyer. If this point (known as the free market equilibrium) is not reached, no sale will take place. It is as a result of many hundreds of transactions that people come to accept the rough prices that markers will sell for second hand. For example (please forgive me if Im wrong here, im merely trying to demonstrate) Id say that one could expect to pick up a second hand E1 Upped Autococker for between £150 and £200 depending on upgrades, condition, location etc. If somebody tried to offer £100 for it, there would almost certainly be somebody who offered £150 for it as there is demand for the product at that price. If the seller tried to sell it for £300 it is unlikely there would be any demand for it at that price...
The only way this will change is if ALL the sellers in the market place decided to raise their prices in line with one another. However, I am quite convinced that there would always be somebody willing to undercut the new market price. Also it would take a long time for the buyers to react to the change, and would also affect the demand for the product, if the price is getting near that of a new gat the buyer would be more inclined to buy that.
I hope that made some sense, and I also hope I got the average prices right too.
The only way this will change is if ALL the sellers in the market place decided to raise their prices in line with one another. However, I am quite convinced that there would always be somebody willing to undercut the new market price. Also it would take a long time for the buyers to react to the change, and would also affect the demand for the product, if the price is getting near that of a new gat the buyer would be more inclined to buy that.
I hope that made some sense, and I also hope I got the average prices right too.
This is the truth of it 100% ^^^^^^if you dont like it.. sorry tough **** thats how it is and it's not going to change. New stuff comes out so old stuff devalues - it happens throughout all technology based items ..cars ..tellys...stereos.... feckin toasters..stop crying and stop buying if you dont like it. And sorry but if i can afford to sell my stuff for a cheap price because i want rid of it then I'll do it - thats my perogative because its my money - no-one else has he right to tell me otherwise and the persistent moaning about it isnt going to stop anyone who wants money quickly agreeing with me .I sell a lot of stuff and lose a lot of money due to my liking the latest marker but i dont sit and complain about how much money I lose I suck it up because its my habit and my choice.
cheers
Marker whoring - been there done that. I've been few plenty of markers (not as much as some people 
) but more than enough, and you soon realise that its only yourself that you're conning.
The second hand buyers are loving the fact that people need the newest bling. I wish I were in the situation that I had to look for a good reliable cheap marker.
Like Mario, i'll be keeping my current setup this year because I dont need to change it. it does what I need, and no other gun will do that so much better that i'd want to change.
(no comments about us tax dodging students thanks very much)
) but more than enough, and you soon realise that its only yourself that you're conning.The second hand buyers are loving the fact that people need the newest bling. I wish I were in the situation that I had to look for a good reliable cheap marker.
Like Mario, i'll be keeping my current setup this year because I dont need to change it. it does what I need, and no other gun will do that so much better that i'd want to change.
(no comments about us tax dodging students thanks very much
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luckily of the 5 of so guns ive had ive managed to get my money back or thereabouts
lost about £90 on my 05 ego but that was at my discretion for a quick sale
its all about doing good deals and waiting for the right ones to come around (both buying AND selling)
lost about £90 on my 05 ego but that was at my discretion for a quick sale
its all about doing good deals and waiting for the right ones to come around (both buying AND selling)
I bought an e1 zero b cocker for £130, did I need it.....nope but for that price it was just silly and people were still trying to offer £80 for it. I can remember when dksize 1st sold his camo speed. it has been through 4 people at least on here each time losing lots of money. it cost me less than a i bought a mech cocker for 1-2 years ago. I can't see my self buying a "new" marker from the shops because i know that like a car it will lose money after I take it out of the shop!
any of the stuff i've sold on here I could have probly got more on ebay but "hopefully " on here it has gone to a good home ( and means in a few monts time i can buy it back for a lot less money!! )
any of the stuff i've sold on here I could have probly got more on ebay but "hopefully " on here it has gone to a good home ( and means in a few monts time i can buy it back for a lot less money!!
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My name is Dskize and I'm an addict......................
anyway, at the end of the day someone somewhere is always going to need money quickly for an emergency.
car repairs, credit card bill, forgot about something to be paid.
therefore money is needed in a BIG hurry and people are more willing to accept a bad price for their marker. this example is only a small proportion of the transactions on these forums, however the mentality seems to be that a marker is only worth less than what the last one sold for.
which is stupid.
I am going to start offering a deal to people. If you need money in a hurry drop me a line. I will buy your kit off you at a stupid price and give you the option to buy it back for the same money 1 month later when you have another paycheck in.
if you can't or don't want to then i will sell your stuff on, for whatever i can get for it and if its more than what i paid so be it. i make a profit, you get pulled out of a hole, and stuff no longer gets sold on to all the scrotes for half their moneys worth, therefore the rest of the scrotes don't see it, and prices stay at a reasonable level!
and yes i am serious, but when i say a stupid price i mean a stupid price. gives you the option to get a few quid quickly though and a month to gather it up again.