The death Penalty.

[Dskize]

It took me about 10 hungover minutes to reply to Bon's initial post ,by which time you had posted your views , but I thought I caught the point in my answer to Bon ..

I disagree with your stance, I think people use the "kiddy killer" line as an excuse to vent there own anger and show there views in a way that they are unlikely to get disagreement from anybody, which is a bit of a weak play in my eyes ,I have two kids and I would wreck serious vengeance on anyone that harmed them but that's down too the personal love of a father. As an educated human being I believe that we need a strong and fair judicial system ...not Sharia law.We need to get rid of the Masonic 100 year olds with no grasp on reality that we call judges, we definitely need to get rid of the extended appeals processes and red tape that cost us all a fortune and I'm actually with Dodge on the repeat offenders thang to a degree but we don't need to be America ..it doesn't work and they prove it ad-nauseum..



Edit: and that ^^^ aint everything I've got ...

 

[niallist]

No.

1) there is always scope for mistakes and conspiracy or abuse by the security services. See the man released two weeks ago after 27 years inside.
2) Do you really want to be in the same human rights category as countries like Saudi Arabia, China, Indonesia, Burma etc. etc.(and the USA)? Oh yeah, and Iran.
3) It does not work as a deterrent as proved in the USA.
4) And on a purely moral level, it would make us as bad as the people commiting the crimes. It lowers us to their level.

Finally, once you let this genie out of the bottle, who's to say that future governments are going to be as careful or fair about it's use as you seem to think our current governments are?

 

[jagerpirate]

careful, thats a thoughtcrime.

 

[head_-_shot]

death penalty

Do you really want to be in the same human rights category as countries like Saudi Arabia, China, Indonesia, Burma etc. etc.(and the USA)? Oh yeah, and Iran

countries such as iran use that penaty for lineal reasons such as adultery which although is bad isnt worthy of death , the discussion is more focussed on murder which in my eyes is the worst crime other than genocide which is linked to murder anyway

 

[Kat]

Never ever.

Not even in the Fritzl case?
I'd see him gone in a heartbeat, no amount of therapy could rehabilitate him into society so if he's never really getting out of prison we may as well save the tax payers cash.

I don't agree in the death penaty for murder.
If I came home, found my husband in bed with my sister and shot them both I'd see that as very different to some lunatic that went on a sick killing spree.

Don't the french call them crimes of passion?

I agree with that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_of_passion

I hate wiki but there you go...

Sexy way of saying temp insanity.

 

[dave t]

If life meant life then their would possibly be no need for a more powerful deterrent but sadly thats not the case. A life sentence should work along the same lines as a driving license...you go to jail till your at least 70, or a minimum 25 years if you're a serial killing pensioner And please,I dont wanna hear any bollocks about the 10year photolicense renewal
In the absence of anything remotely resembling a system where the punishment fits the crime then I would have to say I'm in favour of the death penalty as the ultimate deterrent, and like Robbo says, not just for murder but other crimes as well such as serial rape. I'll have to think a bit more about the torture angle but I'm not writing it off straight away, perhaps some sort of chain gang compromise

 

[niallist]

countries such as iran use that penaty for lineal reasons such as adultery which although is bad isnt worthy of death , the discussion is more focussed on murder which in my eyes is the worst crime other than genocide which is linked to murder anyway

If people are arguing for the death penalty, these are the type of people they are aligning themselves with. My point stands.

 

[Kat]

My opinion and mine alone, think im on the fence with this because take for instance that pour geezer that has just spent the last 27 years of his life behind bars and innocent.

Forensics have come a lonnnng long way since the 70/80's...

Not that I'm saying I 100% agree, just saying that's a lot less likely.

 

[aaronxl]

being a member of Amnesty International I have strong views on this subject. I understand why most of you want capital punishment brought back, however I feel that most of you may not realise that on average 1 person a year is convicted of murder who is innocent, not including other crimes. consequently that would mean one person a year being murdered by the state.

here is a website which fights for those who are wrong convicted in the UK. please take a look, your be surprised at how many there are.

http://www.innocent.org.uk/

 

[Luke W]

Forensics have come a lonnnng long way since the 70/80's...

Not that I'm saying I 100% agree, just saying that's a lot less likely.

But still possible?

And why should an innocent person, and their family, have to suffer?

Also, I can see the death penalty becoming another way for somebody to become a martyr.