The Crying Game ...

[Missy-Q]

Great, now I've have 'The Crying Game' in my head all day. terrinble, terrible song.

 

[Cook$]

Dunno the song. But I have the film in my head. Why the girl is a guy and you see his dick.

Don't read that. Spoilers.

 

[Robbo]

Cosign...

It seems that in every show there needs to be a sob story. Anybody watch So You Think You Can Dance? I sometimes watch the Dutch version, because there are some people in it that I have worked with in the past, but when I see somebody blobbing about how they must win this, because when they were three years old, their bunny died and so they are doing this in memory of their bunny, it makes me want to put a brick through my TV. And since my TV was kinda expensive, I'd rather not do it.

Everybody has a lifestory, everybody has had hardships.

Jay, TV has somehow persuaded people to behave in a manner that in my opinion is demeaning and wholly insincere.
I think it fair to say this modern behaviour came across the Atlantic, in fact, I'm damned sure it did.
I noticed it about 20 or so years ago whenI saw examples of this 'quasi-crying' many times from stateside TV material and at that time, I hadn't see much of it at all from over here.
Slowly but surely, our people have been brainwashed into believing that if you get a microphone/camera stuffed into your face and you are recounting a story or whatever ... you have to look as though you are holding back the tears so's it validates or somehow underlines your problem with a degree of seriousness that really isn't there.

I find it cringe-worthy whenever I see it and my first reaction is to feel like clubbing them to death, a tad severe I agree but nevertheless, I don't feel too sympathetically toward any of these dysfunctional, attention-seeking, weak-minded pathetic individuals who use the opportunity in front of a camera to feign emotion.
If I have ever got anywhere near crying as an adult, the last thing I'd do, is do it in front of a camera.
If you are upset enough to be crying then it's reasonable to be wanting some degree of consolation but that should only from close friends or family; there is no way you should wanna try to elicit an emotional consolation from people you don't know on the other end of a camera lens .... to me, it just shows you're a wimp and a wuss but of course there are genuine exceptions like the guy in this thread and of course people who have suffered a terrible loss and are giving some form of account to a reporter or whatever.

I suppose people might suggest, if I 'don't like it then don't watch it'; fair point and it's exactly what I do but since my missus watches those abominations called 'realty' shows I sometimes catch a glimpse of these emotional cripples but I get my ass outa there real damn quick.

Maybe it's just me cracking on with father time but I'm pretty sure these people who do indulge themselves in front of the camera have something wrong with them and in some way have a deficiency in their self-respect.

 

[Tom]

I'm with you Robbo on desperately avoiding those types of programmes where a little sombre music and a sob story are a requirement.
These devalue the emotion.
I can gladly ignore the XFactors & so called talent shows, but virtually everything has to have a son story

Following a pretty rough year to 18 months a short while back in which I broke into my closest friends flat to find her body, (turned me into a total mess for a while) then losing my gran (not so bad as she had a great long life and I'm proud of her being the most disruptive in the old folks home), then losing my father to ultimately total organ failure when he was hospitalised and refused to go to intensive care.
It comes as a bit of a shock when you have to face facts that the big man I looked up to all my life had grown into a frail old man.
The good part of this was he had recently reunited with an old army buddy who had been the first black man in the regiment but quit the army over 40 years before, but wanted to get back in touch with the married man willing to befriend a coloured single squaddie and was even willing to let him hold his baby daughter!

Following all of this, even though I wouldnt have considered myself hard, I've turned into a sucker for a sob story. But I won't let it be seen and if I'm caught then my eyes are red because of my hay fever or its a bit dusty
I'm not going to show off my emotions in public, I'm certainly not going to do it on camera
I'll vote with my remote control and lose the crocodile tears that he latest wannabe celeb is putting out for affect or premium rate votes

But when it's something like the posted video, then I'm finding myself in a dusty environment

 

[Robbo]

Tom, the problem is though, as I see it anyway, because soooo many of these emotional cripples are indulging in this feigned crying behaviour, it kinda gives everyone the green light to do the same.

Of course there will be individuals who do get a camera and mic shoved up their nose but they possess enough self-respect to not feign any emotion and either give an account of what happened or if they start to feel as though they are getting upset, to walk away from the interviewer .... but guess what? ... if the cameraman and interviewer and sound engineer have say 20 interviews in the can ... guess which ones they are gonna put on air????

The blubbering emotional cripples get the slot ..... and so, the problem isn't just one of social behaviours gone mad but also one of the media rubber-stamping these blubbering wusses.
I think the trend will continue and no doubt increase .... oh what joy

 

[emisnug]

OK, I know I'm more than slightly out of my way here as a newbie, but I do have some points: people blubbering and crying on television is what sells. Personally - I'm not for it. If someone tries to work a sob story into one of my films/documentaries (I'm a student, but still...) I either tell them to bugger off or edit all mention of that person out. It's cheap programming and therefore one of my pet hates - but there is a reason for it. Real emotion is just too hard to come by nowdays, so people edit parts of their lives so their face can get on the TV. Disgraceful, in my opinion.

My other point - that this type of programming came from accross the pond. Yes, it did - that being said though, I was born and bred stateside and go back there whenever I can. That type of programming is dying out (yes!!) - only to be replaced with selfish twits. Mix Jeremy Clarkson with Jay Leno and that's the average intellect of a person on American TV. Doesn't bode well for here, I must say! I shall hopefully do my bit when I'm actually in the broadcast industry and not a student.

Now, back to my essay on the idiot that is Chris Moyles......

 

[Missy-Q]

OK, I know I'm more than slightly out of my way here as a newbie, but I do have some points: people blubbering and crying on television is what sells. Personally - I'm not for it. If someone tries to work a sob story into one of my films/documentaries (I'm a student, but still...) I either tell them to bugger off or edit all mention of that person out. It's cheap programming and therefore one of my pet hates - but there is a reason for it. Real emotion is just too hard to come by nowdays, so people edit parts of their lives so their face can get on the TV. Disgraceful, in my opinion.

My other point - that this type of programming came from accross the pond. Yes, it did - that being said though, I was born and bred stateside and go back there whenever I can. That type of programming is dying out (yes!!) - only to be replaced with selfish twits. Mix Jeremy Clarkson with Jay Leno and that's the average intellect of a person on American TV. Doesn't bode well for here, I must say! I shall hopefully do my bit when I'm actually in the broadcast industry and not a student.

Now, back to my essay on the idiot that is Chris Moyles......

Erm, no it isn't.
rather than dying out, it's becoming way more prevalent.

eg 1 - Biggest Loser - fat people crying, every week, rain or shine, and when they've lost the weight, they cry and sob about how happy they are compared to when they weighed 400lbs. Total cry-fest, in fact if you took out all the crying, the show would be about 12 minutes long.

eg2 - Real Housewives - there are now something like 8 different types, NY, NJ, OC, Bev Hills, Atlanta, Miami, (my other 1/4 watches all of them). This is basically 1 full hour or either crying, or doing stuff that causes others to cry. They cry when they're happy, sad, excited, drunk, whatever, so long as there is a camera pointed at them. Then they have a 2 hour finale where all these bxtches sit around on couches and take it in turns to cry. If one cries better than their rival, you can bet there will be a round 2, where the crying will escalate into wailing, or even into hysterical fighting, culminating in one of them walking off, until they realise that they are no longer on camera, at which point they will come back, and continue crying.

I could give you dozens of examples. There is no way it could be claimed this kind of TV is on the way out, No way at all. Sorry.

Personally I would like to be hired to host one of these shows. I would put a stop to the crying right away, by using tried & trusted methods such as the, 'Pull yourself together', the 'Get a grip' and the 'You want me to give you something to cry about??'.
Ultimately though, the only way to stop it is to not film people crying. I mean, when did crying people become something we want to watch for entertainment? Are our lives so miserable that the only way we can feel better is to see people more miserable than us?
My other 1/4 loves it though, they even start crying in sympathy for the person thats crying on TV. Thats when BF3 kicks in for me.

 

[emisnug]

Real Housewives - there are now something like 8 different types, NY, NJ, OC, Bev Hills, Atlanta, Miami, (my other 1/4 watches all of them).

Heck? There's more than one?? Kick me now. Seriously.

OK, retract my earlier statement. Looks like I should get back to my studies....again.

 

[Big Mac]

What I find most disturbing is the number of people, that age, that can relate to the emotions displayed in that video, and not just to parts of it, for many that is life day after day. I personally blame much of it on the parenting.

Of course it's only natural in us to be harsh now and again, but many do it without remorse and have no consideration to the way they make people feel, and they are the worst. Those that do it and know how it hurts are twisted, for many they don't actually see or understand the pain they cause and as such blindly continue to do it. I understand that it's natural not to like everyone, there are many people I dislike, but rarely do I insult them to such extents, I'm normally civil with them but just try to spend as little time around them as possible, you don't have to mentally abuse or physically abuse them which unfortunately many people seem to think you do....

 

[dodge-gnome]

I saw this earlier today, and thought straight away to this thread.

I had no remorse for the kid, in fact i laughed at the over-dramatics of the entire show!

EDIT: Pete, i'd advise not watching this at risk of you punching through your monitor

EDIT2: Skip to 3:50 for the results.