i took delivery of the dye 2k4 knee pads the other week after having redz knee pads for a year. used them at d7's and was pleasantly surprised to find they didnt move at all, and even though they looked so small, they had awesome protection and were really comfy, a must buy.
p.s. i have a spare pair for sale
this wasnt a post to sell them that is my true feelings, hence why i still have them