was just reading the advanced threads for older markers and they go over stripping, cleaning and lubing the solenoid, the grease of choice id dow 33, so would regular gun oil suffice if i needed to do this?
teching advice for an ego 05
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no. for the solenoid Dow33 is the right lube.
light gun oil IS NOT LUBE
its OIL
LUBE = grease / thicker goo for greasing parts.
and seeing as you have so far come across as (sorry) clueless I wouldnt recommend you take apart a solenoid.
light gun oil IS NOT LUBE
its OIL
LUBE = grease / thicker goo for greasing parts.
and seeing as you have so far come across as (sorry) clueless I wouldnt recommend you take apart a solenoid.
ahhh eurika, the answer to the mystery, guides and books refer to lubing things up but only ever mention light gun oil and vaseline, the missing link is this dow 33 marvelous, and no im sure im not noobish enough to service a solenoid, ive worked on more difficult items than paintbal markers thanks.
Joe Calzaghe is a champion boxer but I doubt he would do too well in a karate tournament.
Im not saying you are incapable, more that you are self evidently inexperienced with teching EGOs, so just take some advice and dont run before you can walk.
You asked for advice and what you presented to me was a thorough noob who
1 - obviously hasnt read an Ego 5 manual
2 - doesnt know the difference between various lubricants used in common paintball guns
3 - thought you could put gun oil on a solenoid.
So just suck it up and learn from it dont throw it back in peoples faces who have for all intents and purposes given you the correct answers.
Im not saying you are incapable, more that you are self evidently inexperienced with teching EGOs, so just take some advice and dont run before you can walk.
You asked for advice and what you presented to me was a thorough noob who
1 - obviously hasnt read an Ego 5 manual
2 - doesnt know the difference between various lubricants used in common paintball guns
3 - thought you could put gun oil on a solenoid.
So just suck it up and learn from it dont throw it back in peoples faces who have for all intents and purposes given you the correct answers.
I do appreciate help, what I dont appreciate is you assuming I have not read any guides or indeed the ego manual not reading the manual would be a very noobish thing to do. the ego 05 manual doesnt cover the solenoid for one, thats included in the 06 manual and tells you to use dow 33, so yes I do know you cant use gun oil on a solenoid, but going back to what you said earlier using anything else other than gun oil /vaseline was marketing BS.
My inexperience is evident that I dont know what other lube / grease / goo to use on the other parts of the marker. regs need vasleline or similar, the rammer and bolt light gun oil. when you read the ego manual it tells you to lube various other parts and o'rings but doesnt tell you what to use.
I come on here asking and as you can see above the main suggestion from the majority including yourself is too only use light gun oil and vaseline.
appologies if my previous post came across as sharp I was booze fueled last night and probably shouldnt have logged on. all I really want to know is what other lube do you guys use when your not using gun oil or vaseline?
My inexperience is evident that I dont know what other lube / grease / goo to use on the other parts of the marker. regs need vasleline or similar, the rammer and bolt light gun oil. when you read the ego manual it tells you to lube various other parts and o'rings but doesnt tell you what to use.
I come on here asking and as you can see above the main suggestion from the majority including yourself is too only use light gun oil and vaseline.
appologies if my previous post came across as sharp I was booze fueled last night and probably shouldnt have logged on. all I really want to know is what other lube do you guys use when your not using gun oil or vaseline?
OK cool
from my experience on EGOs from 05 to 07 and the etek
I used vaseline on the HPR and LPR orings
I used light gun oil (eclipse or PMI) on the bolt and rammer orings (and also the LPR orings on an ETEK which are a bit different)
I never had to mess with teh noids, but I know others that did and they use a tiny amount of dow33 on the orings on the spool inside it.
The best way to get good consistency from your gun is:
1- fresh high quality battery
2 - good paint to bore match
once those are in place, make sure you marker orings are all decent and lubed as appropriate.
set your dwell to the stock settings for your marker (and board as they often differ if you have a Tadao / virtue for instance).
set your LPR to flush
set your HPR to the stock setting that acheives around 280psi.
from memeory I think its 3.5 turns in from flush on an 05 ego, and 5 turns in on the etek and 07 ego but I am probably wrong, its been a while.
over a chrono set your velocity using the HPR to 280 / 300fps.
lower your dwell until you notice a drop in velocity.
add 1-2ms to that dwell time.
you should have optimal dwell for your marker.
from my experience on EGOs from 05 to 07 and the etek
I used vaseline on the HPR and LPR orings
I used light gun oil (eclipse or PMI) on the bolt and rammer orings (and also the LPR orings on an ETEK which are a bit different)
I never had to mess with teh noids, but I know others that did and they use a tiny amount of dow33 on the orings on the spool inside it.
The best way to get good consistency from your gun is:
1- fresh high quality battery
2 - good paint to bore match
once those are in place, make sure you marker orings are all decent and lubed as appropriate.
set your dwell to the stock settings for your marker (and board as they often differ if you have a Tadao / virtue for instance).
set your LPR to flush
set your HPR to the stock setting that acheives around 280psi.
from memeory I think its 3.5 turns in from flush on an 05 ego, and 5 turns in on the etek and 07 ego but I am probably wrong, its been a while.
over a chrono set your velocity using the HPR to 280 / 300fps.
lower your dwell until you notice a drop in velocity.
add 1-2ms to that dwell time.
you should have optimal dwell for your marker.
ok thanks, apart from gun oil and veseline, what other lube can be used in the gun for the inbetweeny stuff like the o'rings at the front of the rammer housing
or is it as you say all bollox and should just lube the majoority of things and o'rings with gun oil, apart from the regs wich is vaseline and solenoid which is dow 33.
or is it as you say all bollox and should just lube the majoority of things and o'rings with gun oil, apart from the regs wich is vaseline and solenoid which is dow 33.
Well you CAN use things like DOW33 (and the various rebranded versions such as Monkey Spunk from Slothball) its just the fact they costs about 20x more than vaseline, so why waste the money?
I wouldnt use DOW55 on an EGO as that is specifically for Bob Long intimidators.
The other 'brands' like I say are almost always a derivative of DOW33 or other teflon / silicon based lubricants and unless you really want to splash out (and import from the USA in most cases) its not worth the hassle.
Things like slick honey are a lube specially for spool valve guns such as dye and smart parts, but I wouldnt use it on an EGO for instance.
In guns like spool valves where the moving orings are a large mainatenence worry, specialised lubes are sometimes worth investing in.
Personally I never bothered, and I used to team tech about 8 or so guns, very rarely had problems with them at all. Rammer orings and HPR piston came up about 3 times each in 3 seasons.
Rammer housing and associated parts = oil.
I wouldnt use DOW55 on an EGO as that is specifically for Bob Long intimidators.
The other 'brands' like I say are almost always a derivative of DOW33 or other teflon / silicon based lubricants and unless you really want to splash out (and import from the USA in most cases) its not worth the hassle.
Things like slick honey are a lube specially for spool valve guns such as dye and smart parts, but I wouldnt use it on an EGO for instance.
In guns like spool valves where the moving orings are a large mainatenence worry, specialised lubes are sometimes worth investing in.
Personally I never bothered, and I used to team tech about 8 or so guns, very rarely had problems with them at all. Rammer orings and HPR piston came up about 3 times each in 3 seasons.
Rammer housing and associated parts = oil.
thanks, much appreciated, if they were only that clear in the manual, makes me laugh they state specificly oil and vaseline in there when thats what you should be using but just say lube or lubricate on those other bits and dont say what to use, suppose you can see why its confusing.
Well...I would say, that Lube, is short for lubricate, which is oil.
Grease, means grease, not oil. Ergo, Vaseline.
So yeah, Vaseline on the regs and "light gun oil" anywhere else.
And it would not make sense for Eclipse saying "Vaseline" to be marketing BS, because as stated, it's cheaper than anything else.
If they said ONLY use Eclipse Gun Oil, then that would be marketing BS.
Eclipse don't BS, they don't need to and they know, that we would know they are talking crap...they don't insult your intelligence in that way.
Grease, means grease, not oil. Ergo, Vaseline.
So yeah, Vaseline on the regs and "light gun oil" anywhere else.
And it would not make sense for Eclipse saying "Vaseline" to be marketing BS, because as stated, it's cheaper than anything else.
If they said ONLY use Eclipse Gun Oil, then that would be marketing BS.
Eclipse don't BS, they don't need to and they know, that we would know they are talking crap...they don't insult your intelligence in that way.