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Speedy (DM4) Chip Review

eastcoastkilla2k4

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Well, I spent $300 on a new speedy chip, so I figured I’d write a review on it after last nights practice.

After reading about the chip on various websites, I decided to check out www.advantagepb.com . The site was very professional, so I figured the chances of being ripped off were very small unlike buying from someone on pbnation who “claims” to have a ramper. I ordered the chip on Saturday, and it arrived at my door on Tuesday. The chip came very professionally packaged, with a note explaining how it works, and with my unique code for enabling the ramping. I’m not gonna tell you my code for obvious reasons, but it was 6 digit, and was something like 110101 with 1 representing the on/off membrane, and 0 representing the eye membrane.

When the gun and eye are on, and you enter in the code correctly, the led brightens for a ¼ of a second indicating the gun is now in ramping mode. If you tap either membrane just once, it goes back into stock mode. There is no indication when you tap the button and it goes back to stock, but I guess it’s better that way.

When not in ramping mode, the chip performed identically to my stock chip. When it was in ramp mode, it was soooo fast.. I could run around the field shooting lefty with a full stream coming out of my gun. When I keyed the corners off the break, I hit someone almost every time. I have used other rampers before, and I believe that the speedy chip is even slightly faster.

For most of the practice we were playing against younger kids, so I kept the gun in stock mode. It was better practice that way, and I didn’t spend a fortune on paint (the only downfall of using a ramping gun).

After one of the games when I was using the gun in ramp mode, one of the kids was saying to me how my gun was so illegal. I said to him no its not, try it. As I handed him the gun, I bumped the membrane with my palm. He shot the gun as fast as he could and then said he was wrong, and that I just shoot real fast. A good test on what to do if a ref asks for your gun. : )

All in all, AdvantagePB delivered an excellent product, and came better then described. I would recommend this chip to everyone. It is one of the most expensive chips out there, but if you want the best, I guess you have to pay the most.

Posting this review, I’m sure I’m going to get flamed by every 16 year old kid who can’t afford one of these chips. I don’t care. I don’t think ramping guns are wrong. They have become part of the game, and they add excitement to the sport. If you think Advantagepb are the only ones selling ramping chips, do a search for ramp on PBNation, and it will come up with 5 pages of people selling/trading/using ramping chips. Also, if you shoot me in the leg as I run to a bunker I’m going to slide on it. Just like everyone else. When I was in grade school, I use to cheat on tests.. When I drive I speed. I have no regrets on how I live my life. Only the strong Survive.
 

dr.strangelove

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Man dog, that's like supa agg and ****. I wish I had one dude. :rolleyes:

Posting this review, I’m sure I’m going to get flamed by every 16 year old kid who can’t afford one of these chips. I don’t care. I don’t think ramping guns are wrong. They have become part of the game... if you shoot me in the leg as I run to a bunker I’m going to slide on it. Just like everyone else.
This may come as a ginormous shock to you, but not everyone cheats, and it's not just because they "can't afford" to (matter of fact, last time this was posted, there were more than a few people with some programming knowledge who could do it for the cost of the PIC, about 2 bucks). You're right though, thanks to people like you with absolutely no talent and no integrity, ramping markers are more and more becoming part of the game. Until the inevitable day when they find a way to catch you idiots, I guess those of us who can actually mow our markers without any assistance will just have to shoot you fellas in the face off the break instead of the legs. I'm sure the proper adjustment can be made.

Hard to believe paintball hasn't made it to the Olympics yet with half it's players so excited about being able to cheat. I'm starting to think maybe the "outside world" is right, maybe this really isn't such a legitimate sport.
 

eastcoastkilla2k4

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Someone is quite raw...

If you can find someone who will write up a program for a gun for $2 send them my way.

Your talking 200hours + of programing, thats a ton less than even a 13yr girl is making right now in Hati :rolleyes:

Olympics: Your joking, you must be... there are real reasons considering the facts being there is no international governing commission, no standardized game format, etc. Clearly the numerous scandals in other professional sports and the olympic games ranging from cheating, rigging events, and use of steriods can compete with people using boards to shoot a bit faster.
 

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You are bound to get flamed on this forum not because of your 'every 16 year old kid who can’t afford one of these chips' concept.... More from the fact that non semi auto modes are against the law, not just against tournament regulations in Europe (where most of this forum's active members are located). Regulations in European tournaments are a **** load tougher on gun cheats for this very reason as they want to avoid **** in case there is an accident. All this secret code stuff won't mean crap. If your gun is ramping or doing funny stuff on the field the millennium refs will be all over you and you'll get pulled/banned. Whether they can replicate it or not your ass will be grass on suspicion.

Most players with modern, non cheating equipment can walk the trigger and fire consistently at at least 13-15 BPS, which is plenty fast enough to lock a lane down. It is only when one kid turns up with a cheating gun that there becomes the necessity to cheat in a 'me too' manner.

$300 for something that allows you to shoot your gun faster....big whoop, i can change the debounce on my gun and get it easily shooting as fast as my Halo will feed .....so what? I didn't have to pay through the nose for the illegal privilege.
 

dr.strangelove

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Originally posted by eastcoastkilla2k4
If you can find someone who will write up a program for a gun for $2 send them my way.
PM JohnC on these forums, he's got his own chip in his DM4, at least according to his post in the "roll up, roll up, get your cheater boards" thread. The functions of a paintball marker aren't that complex, if you are any good at programming, it's really not that tough (I know other people who have done their own chips for other markers as well. You keep pointing back to PBN, go there and run a search for such things, I'm sure you'll find some folks who've done it, especially in the "Voided Warranty" and "Custom Markes" categories)

Olympics: Your joking, you must be... there are real reasons considering the facts being there is no international governing commission, no standardized game format, etc. Clearly the numerous scandals in other professional sports and the olympic games ranging from cheating, rigging events, and use of steriods can compete with people using boards to shoot a bit faster.
I realize the list of reasons for paintball not being Olympic, but the fact that it's got so many players so willing to cheat isn't going to get it any extra credit. One thing you have to realize about those other sports with scandals, cheaters, etc, is that they didn't get that way until tons of prestige and money was involved, paintball is like that even with little peons at their local fields on the weekends (I mean, seriously, even at the pro level our players aren't even paid!). It's an attitude that seems to go with the sport in general, and it's pathetic.

And by the way, not being a talentless loser who has to depend on a couple exta bps to compete doesn't make me naive or ignorant. Believe me, I've forogotten more about paintball than alot of people will ever know. I just don't like cheaters, I don't like cheating, it has no place in any sport and it's a crutch for the weak. Take from that what you will.
 

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The problem is not cheating.....Its catching the cheats.

Every sport has people or equipment that push the boundrys/limits.

Thats why everthing evolves.

We went from pumps to semi's to super fast markers, and the "cheat" boards are just the next step.

The only limit is how fast your hopper can feed, not how fast you can pull the trigger.

Almost all markers now can with practice or altering the trigger, outshoot the hopper.

Is it legal??? not sure.
Is it good for the sport?? not sure.
Is it here now?? Yes.

Do I want to adjust my trigger?? Only to legal limits.
 

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How very sad.... someone else who feels they have to cheat in order to be competitive...

Learn to shoot fast with both hands, don't let a lame chip do it for you.

As for not being able to afford em... hell I could buy a dozen a month, but sadly I believe that if the team I play for wins we did it because we played well...

Each to there own I suppose. It isn't in all honesty an issue for me really, until these things start appearing over here :(
 

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Originally posted by eastcoastkilla2k4
Ignoring the other responses
I would have thought the reason for posting the review in the first place would have been to stimulate debate on the matter. Rather immature to simply ignore other's contributions, especially as mine wasn't a 'flame'.

TJ, the current robot would not be able to detect any chip like this due to the way it operates. The robot only has an actuator for the trigger and not for any button that might be on the back of the gun. As the cheat mode is activated by a code of the membrane buttons on the back of the grip there is no way that the present technology can test for this. I guess in theory the robot could be adapted to have actuators for the back buttons on the DM4 (or other guns) but that would be much more complex. If the marker was removed from the player's hands on suspicion and the membrane buttons were not touched after the the cheat mode was activated then the NPPL robot would have no problem at all detecting the ramping.