So, Brexit???
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Currently the uk is part of a number of 'world armies', including NATO, the UN, and alliances such as sharing aircraft carriers with France or other multi national alliances in various hot spots around the world.
The EU army is the same thing - a proposition to form a defence alliance for Europe
(Much of nato is Europe, but it is also non European and has different 'terms of reference' than an EU alliance proposal)
That deportation was flawed because of the fact that he was deported without a hearing, not that it is against the uks right to deport people whether they are eu citizens or not
Should have had a fast track hearing and deported him
The uks problem with deporting convicted criminals and illegal immigrants / failed assylum seakers is not about uk or eu law.
It's a failure in the uk to act and process deportations
(Encouraging Mass 3rd world immigration)
This is publicised in relation to the current migration situation with mass people smuggling and the involvement of the eu sending out navies to pick people out of the sea and intention to deal with immigration requests at source to discourage the journeys being made
This is not an eu issue, but a world issue. As the eu act collaboratively then this becomes an eu matter for dissenters or supporters
Exiting the eu will not have any real difference on how the uk deal with international migration, and as a world leader with the empire history of the U.K. We will continue to act on such world matters
A large portion of that 50% is due to trade between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland so it's kind of a false figure.
yes, however your figures are slightly off. Last year, exports to the EU were 44%, to the Republic of Ireland was 7.5%.
Your export figure by the way also include shipments to countries outside the EU which transit through Holland's shipping network.
“The official ONS [Office of National Statistics] data significantly overstates the real level of UK exports to the rest of the EU, because of… the Rotterdam-Antwerp Effect… The Rotterdam-Antwerp Effect arises because the ONS and its fellow-bodies, in compiling their geographical registers of exports, record as the destination of the export the country of the first port of discharge of a consignment, even when the consignment is only in transit on its way to a different end-destination country… Even when recorded as exports to the Netherlands and Belgium, British goods may not even touch Dutch or Belgian soil, simply being transhipped in the ports of Rotterdam and Antwerp to container vessels bound for – say – Singapore.”
It's like anything the government tells you, there a lies, damned lies and statistics........
Where have you got this figure from, because it's false.
I've seen the table I think you're refering to. It's a survey of 1650 people taken nearly 2 weeks before the vote. 1650 is 0.00005% of the 33mil who voted. Thats 5 people per 100,000. I don't think this can be classed as representative at all.
It doesn't make the figures right or wrong
They are statistics, some because of being right next door (northern & southern Ireland)
Some still due to proximity
Some eu wide
With brexit the impact is unknown and will have different effects on different exports, for some things the customers remain the same for others the eu situation will be significant
At a basic level the loss of the free market will generate import/export duties. Buy paintball gear from Europe today and just have the currency exchange rate and postage to deal with, buy from outside Europe (eg USA) and get stung by 20% import vat plus a handling fee such as £8 or £20 to the carrier
Brexit will mean paying that duty and fee for items from Europe
On a different scale it can mean trade deals on different commodities and the standards complied to
With air systems it can mean bringing back another standard. Today we have dot for USA, tc for Canada, TPED for Europe and legacy HSE for the old uk standards
Bring back our own standard for not being part of Europes TPED and there's a new standard for manufacturers, and the associated costs complying and submitting for standards testing
People already get grumpy that a specific model cylinder isn't released for the European market
One thing for example is my sponsors Enola Gaye. They currently have offices in the UK, USA and China, and have their own factory in China
They are currently on a European trip with regard to a European office. They aren't waiting for the arguments about when the process begins, the currency exchange rates bouncing about etc. Europe is a vital customer - Enola Gaye are also key stakeholder that contributed to European standards on pyro. Something that the EU got right and in British interests
They are statistics, some because of being right next door (northern & southern Ireland)
Some still due to proximity
Some eu wide
With brexit the impact is unknown and will have different effects on different exports, for some things the customers remain the same for others the eu situation will be significant
At a basic level the loss of the free market will generate import/export duties. Buy paintball gear from Europe today and just have the currency exchange rate and postage to deal with, buy from outside Europe (eg USA) and get stung by 20% import vat plus a handling fee such as £8 or £20 to the carrier
Brexit will mean paying that duty and fee for items from Europe
On a different scale it can mean trade deals on different commodities and the standards complied to
With air systems it can mean bringing back another standard. Today we have dot for USA, tc for Canada, TPED for Europe and legacy HSE for the old uk standards
Bring back our own standard for not being part of Europes TPED and there's a new standard for manufacturers, and the associated costs complying and submitting for standards testing
People already get grumpy that a specific model cylinder isn't released for the European market
One thing for example is my sponsors Enola Gaye. They currently have offices in the UK, USA and China, and have their own factory in China
They are currently on a European trip with regard to a European office. They aren't waiting for the arguments about when the process begins, the currency exchange rates bouncing about etc. Europe is a vital customer - Enola Gaye are also key stakeholder that contributed to European standards on pyro. Something that the EU got right and in British interests
The sad reality is we'll probably see little to no difference.
People are panicking when we haven't left yet. The real world impact right now is for people who need euros or dollars to go on summer holidays!!
I'd rather wait a few months for the hype and hysteria to settle down then deal with things in an informed manner.
People are panicking when we haven't left yet. The real world impact right now is for people who need euros or dollars to go on summer holidays!!
I'd rather wait a few months for the hype and hysteria to settle down then deal with things in an informed manner.