Originally posted by tremis
Heres the only problem with that, saying that a DMW is illigel is very Ambiguous. You have to define what it is. Do you say that players have to run at full speed whenever they move? Or they cannot move in the direction of their deadbox? Or how about their barrel can not go lower than parallel to the ground? Or is it just if they meet all of the above criteria at once. Of course we can all think of a time where we moved slowly backwards with our gun pointing down that wasn't a dead mans walk. It is much more clear to say if you are out, remove your armband and raise your gun above your head. Then of course if you arent doing those things, you are still fair game. I understand people wanting to remove the DMW (may not agree) but somebody has to have a very clearly understood way of writing that rule. Just saying that trying to fool someone is illegal is just silly. we do it all the time in every aspect of the game: in trying to make people think we're going to bunker them when were not or vice versa and which side of the bunker were going to come out ect ect. Nobody has been able to clearly define the DMW in order to properly enforce it. And you cant put the elephant principle in a rule book. If you want our "sport" taken seriously you cant write a rule that says:" you may not know what this is, but we do, so don't do it" some one has their work cut out for them to make it a legitimately clear rule. In the mean time it seems easier to let it in. At least then the enforcement is consistent.
Tremis
I agree!
There should not be nor should there ever have been a rule against DMW.
The rules have always been clear before:
1. If you indicate that you are eliminated then you are eliminated.
2. If you are eliminated you are supposed to immediately get off the field of play while indicating the fact that you are eliminated with an upraised marker or upraised hand.
If a person meanders off the field with hands and marker down then that person is a valid target and it is only correct to treat that person so. The games are too fast for us to have to study an opponent's body language (apart from an upraised hand or marker) to try to GUESS if the player is a valid target or not.
I have very clearly taken a stand against bonus balling by saying to the judges in the Nations Cup series that clear, malicious bonus balling should be dealt with in the same manner as fist-fighting, that is hostile conduct.
But call me a hypocrite if you will because if I peek out from behind an obstacle and see an opponent walking without giving the sign I will light him or her up, and I might do it until that person stops looking like a "live" player.
This is another example of how behavior needs to change. Players have got to signal their elimination until they are off the field of play.
And to Tremis's point: if I want to meander slowly in one direction or another during a game, as a live player, then that is up to me whether or not I want to take the risk of getting lit up.
Steve
