Refilling Air cylinders

[Tom Allen]

Don't get me wrong guys, i use a 12L dive tank myself. Just that Team Demonic was asking for info on both tanks and compressors, so if i can help i will. The trouble with a 12L, is the bloddy thing is heavy. Skeetmaster are your bottle steel, or ally fibre wrapped bottles.

 

[Skeet]

They arent my bottles..just ones i think are good value for our purposes...they are steel i imagine..tho they do fibre wrapped ones in slightly smaller sizes for more money...although...aluminium bottles of this size arent fibre wrapped because they have the room to use thicker walls, so they could be either really, steels more expensive.

Interesting about the compressors ...regular servicing would be needed tho. Godd for a team to buy really, if they are reliable..might be an idea to pass the dive shops number on to T.Demonic, so he can ask them about them..they are probably Bauer.
Gaz

 

[Tom Allen]

The dive shop is Remar in Caerphilly, tel no. is 029 20860416, not sure if the price was a special for me, as i do a fair bit of filling there, and get on with the owner quite well.
The Bridgend shop with the 232 bar mains powered compressors is Keen Guns, but i don't have a number for them.
Hpac gave me the price for a 300 bar mains powered compressor, which i'm pretty sure was £1300.
Yes, you would need regular servicing, and i would have thought that it would be pretty expensive, ideal for a team, a bit expensive for a single person.

Team Demonic, for ease of use and portability, most paitballers use a dive tank, so this is probably the best advice we can give, but whatever suits your needs will be better for you.

Enjoy your paintball, but respect the high pressures that your using.

 

[Team Demonic]

cheers all for the advice i've been phoning around few places but my biggest problem is that my parents seem to think that having a fill tank in my garage or in the house has about the same risk level as keeping about two tons of primed semtex in the oven.

 

[ChrisWhiteSTEL]

LOL... well, all you can do is buy some sort of stand for it so their is no risk of it falling over, or if you have room to lie it down they do them tubes with string between like a large padded rope ladder. So you can lie the tanks down on those.

Just trying to get some ideas for further safety!

 

[Skeet]

Originally posted by Team Demonic
cheers all for the advice i've been phoning around few places but my biggest problem is that my parents seem to think that having a fill tank in my garage or in the house has about the same risk level as keeping about two tons of primed semtex in the oven.

They need some re-Neducation...if its to go in the garage, lay it on something with the valve pointing towards the door...end of bottle against a wall..the bottle valve will fail first in the event of over preassurising and so this will pop the valve out, the bottle wont fly about as the wall holds it in place (not technically assured, but dont tell them that!) they also have burst discs as well i think..inform them that the bottles are stringently tested before sale to well over their normal fill preassure...the only likely cause of failiure would be fire..you could keep it in the garden, under an upturned dustbin (to protect it from the elements, not you from it!)
If the bottle fell over..the only real risk would be if you left the fill station atatched, as this protrudes beyond the line of the tank, and could cause the valve to snap, so leave it off!
Gaz

 

[Team Demonic]

yeah i've tried that one i think the easiest way may to assasinate them but ill print your post out and give it another go.

Cheers mate.

 

[Loki *Uk*]

Just a thought, but I think there are laws about carrying compressed air tanks around in vehicles. If you are gonna buy a dive tank, might be worth asking local fire brigade.

I have a mate who works with fire extinguisers and he says that the factory floor has them EMBEDDED in the concrete ceiling, and CO2 aint as high pressure as the air we are talking about.

Just my little 2 pence.

Me personally I have a good friends site who have a tank onsite for me so that I can go there and tank up anytime I pay about £10 a month, then just the refill charges.


J[zz

 

[Tom Allen]

Team Demonic, this is the one to show your parents.

The compressed tanks that we use are extremely well tested, and they are safer than the common household boiler. There's more chance of a lottery win, than one of these tanks failing. They are only allowed to be used for a maximum of 15 years and are tested every 3 or 5 years during this period.
The large storage or fill tanks are normally on divers backs, so they have to be totally safe, without question. As a parent myself i would be happy to let my son into paintball and allow him the use of these air systems. AS A PAINTBALLER, I KNOW THESE TANKS ARE SAFE.

TOM.

 

[Skeet]

I also have three children...and I keep my divers bottle in the understairs cupboard, with rest of my kit...however, I do remove the fill station when transporting it....

Should get a Compressed Gases sticker (green diamond) from a dive shop, have one you can stick in the car window when transporting it.

Once you get it, and they are sound, they might want to check if their car insurance company would have any objections, its for hobby/recreational use, not commercial!
Gaz

Also...Dive tanks should now be tested as follows: Visual inspection every 2.5 years, Hydro Test every 5 years.