ramping

[Gadget]

Just to clarify on the post above me, Air Pistols in the Uk are legally required to be under 4ft/lb, not 6.

No - Nobby was correct, it's 6ft/lb for air pistols.

Air pistols above 6ft/lbs and rifles above 12ft/lbs are both perfectly legal to own, provided you have a firearm certificate.

 

[axess]

um, the home office regards paintball guns as toys, as such all modes are legal as is any velocity you care to fire them at.

modes and fps are at the choice of sites and insurers.

i'm not saying you are fine to run round your local park with your marker shooting trees, just that your not gonna have the police knocking because you have ramp or full auto modes.

 

[Rider]

as far as firearms legislation goes (if attempted to be applied to markers - really depends on the energy with which the paintball fired carries, and if the object fired is frangible...) then ramping is a grey area. the only legal firemode in the uk for firearms is semi-automatic - one pull = one shot. as you have to continually pull the trigger in order to ramp the marker, then it doesn't actually fall into either the semi- or fully-automatic categories - thus the debate in the past (and present, and no doubt the future!).

millenium mode is a form of ramping - it just has predetermined programming for kick-in, sustain and bps rates. (7.5tpps kick-in, 7.5tpps sustain, 15bps rof - i think)

other ramping modes are different in there various firing options.

 

[Gadget]

um, the home office regards paintball guns as toys, as such all modes are legal as is any velocity you care to fire them at.

No it doesn't, no they're not and no it isn't.

From http://www.ukpsf.com/paintballlaw.asp

The Firearms Act places paintball markers in the Air Weapons section. Air weapons do not need a licence if they fall within the following criteria, outside this criteria a licence is required. (This is a brief summary of the main points)

For a paintball marker to be classed as an "Air Weapon" and therefore not require a licence it must not be fired above 12 ft/lbs for a “rifle” type and 6 ft/lbs for a “pistol” type. Nearly all paintball markers come under the “rifle” type, only markers like the “splatmaster” come into the “pistol” category. If a marker fires above these limits they will then come under the Firearms Act and require a licence or be classed as a prohibited weapon. The recent amendment included carbon dioxide as an approved propellant previously only compressed air was allowed. Paintball markers must also only fire approved paintballs. Paintball markers must not be fully automatic i.e. when pulling the trigger once, two or more paintballs must not be discharged.

To stay within the law a paintball marker must not be fired above 330fps when using an average weight paintball, this equates to 12 ft/lbs. All tournament markers are restricted to a maximum velocity of 300fps, which equates to 9.9ft/lbs and site markers should be used at between 250-280fps to be safe for customers. This equates to 7ft/lbs-8.7ft/lbs.

 

[axess]

sorry mate, there was someone who decided to write a letter and find out and the home office said they were toys, due to the fact paintballs are frangible ammunition (they break). i may be belittling there efforts by saying they wrote a letter but that was the response they got from their hard work. honestly, its on here somewhere.

 

[chrizwheatley]

In that case then most air weapons under 12lbs could be classed as "toys" you can get "brittle" amunination for anything, it will always be a grey area and will never be cleared up. The top and bottom is the police will if you abuse it charge you for a firearms offence, but if you average joe that paintballs proply you wont have much probem, eg a 17year old kid goes to the park and starts shooting dogs or people ... well there going to get locked up its as simple as that. Mr Average 35 year old goes to a reconised paintball field and has a mask, safety equiptment etc etc will be fine (under normall sucumstances). Grey areas are usually there on purpose so then they can decide if your a bad lad you get done if ya a nice boy your fine. To say "they break" is probly wrong as lots of full bore guns purposley "break" on impact usually to chop up someones guts and inflict max damage as apose to just go straight threw, the british army standard "accepted" 5.56 is designed for this purpose where as say a 7.62 (soviet standard round) isnt. My guess is play nicelly, play safe and your fine, and if for whatever reason they still pull you, plead ignorant and just take a slapped wrist or a caution lol!

I myself have firearms and shotguns, there is constant talk of "they will ban it" etc etc but the main fact is loads of these mps / lords shoot, so there never going to do that. I think people worry to much about not worrying, and then thats when any "anti" would jump at the chance, i can garantee there are "anti" paintballers who say it promotes the use of "guns" or voilence etc.

Moral of the story DONT WORRY TILL IT HAPPENS!

Chris

 

[clansman1]

haha dont cross chriz wheatly he will shoot you.

i have always wanted guns.

jason

 

[chrizwheatley]

No am a nice boy i promise *flutters eyes* lol

 

[tiffer]

My understanding (?) is that ramping and say.. Millenium mode are different.

Ramping on some markers is preset and falls foul of the millenium rules for ramping, and thus cannot be used in tourney play.

However on walk-ons, at most sites, ramping is allowed.

Full-auto however is not allowed ever. Will only be used in UK paintball if your a cheating scumbag.

Geez I'm afraid it's the opposite,most sites do not allow ramping due to the insurance or lack of clarity with regards to the use of.
Ramping's for tourneys IMHO(and I mean my opinion) there's very few players who need ramping at walk-ons...is there..

 

[clansman1]

yeah at wycombe there is loads of posters saying ramping markers are NOT allowed.

jason