Psp At It Again!!

[headrock6]

Check this schedule out!!!Look closely at the Amatuer 10 man schedule...This was posted by Lane...
The schedule for the World Cup is as follows:

Sunday - Oct 20 - 5 man Prelims for all classifications (Rookie, Novice, Amateur,
and Pro)

Monday - Oct 21 - 5 Man Prelims for Rookie, Novice, Amateur and Pro AND the 5
Man Amateur Semis and Finals. The schedule will have the Amateurs finish as
quickly as possible in the morning, so they can play 5 Man Amateur Semis and
Finals in the afternoon.

Tuesday - Oct 22 - 5 Man Semis and Finals for Rookie, Novice, and Pro and
Amateur 10 man Prelims.

Wednesday - Oct 23 - 10 Man Amateur Semis and Finals and an exhibition X ball
event at the Disney complex (for invited teams to serve as a trial run for Sunday)

Thursday - Oct 24th - 10 Man prelims for Rookie, Novice, and Pro

Friday - Oct 25th - 10 Man prelims for Rookie, Novice, and Pro

Saturday - Oct 26th - 10 Man Semis and Finals for Rookie, Novice, and Pro

Sunday - Oct 27th - Exhibition X Ball at the Disney Complex for 8 top teams. This is
by invitation only.

There are indeed things that are out of the ordinary going on at this event. The fact
that Disney has finally decided to open its doors and give us a chance to show our
sport on their grounds could be monumental for the future of the game. Concessions
have to be made to accomodate the days Disney are making their grounds available
to us.

We need 4 or 5 Amateur teams to ref the remainder of the event (Thursday, Friday,
and Saturday). Therefore we are scheduling the Amateur 10 man event as a stand
alone event with only Amateur teams playing, on Tuesday and Wednesday. if your
Amateur team is interested in judging the remainder of the tournament, you can
contact me at 770-466-5558.

 

[Baca Loco]

Ay Caramba

This is indeed the real deal. (I didn't respond to this before now as I was waiting to get absolute confirmation the intended schedule is the one you see in post above.) Seems the PSP weren't prepared to back Richmond originally but now that it (X-Ball) is looking good they're prepared to screw everyone over to promote X-Ball at Disney.

Here's an idea posted elsewhere by Questions, "If indeed this is to accomodate Disney and their schedule AND if the Sunday exhibition is all Pro teams, then let the Pro's play Tues/Weds, Ref the remainder and then play X-ball. They don't buy there own tickets, hotels, cars, entry fee, etc.'

'That would be fair to those that have to pay for their participation."

It would at least begin to make up for the inconveniences a lot of teams are gonna have to deal with. I quite understand their rationale but it pretty much kicks the crap oughta the oft offered notion that this is all about the players. I've nothing against X-Ball, in fact I'm 100% for it, but the NPPL and PSP have an obligation to the teams and players who have been supporting them.

So, Chuck, does the NPPL have anything to say about this? Y'all gonna sanction this?

 

[headrock6]

Ay Caramba

Originally posted by Baca Loco
This is indeed the real deal. (I didn't respond to this before now as I was waiting to get absolute confirmation the intended schedule is the one you see in post above.)

Thanks Baca. i thought i was making an ass out of myself Not unlike me though!!

Im assuming it the AM's because they have the least teams,and Trauma pretty much has it locked up..Does that make it any less wrong??HELL NO!!

Once again the PSP has done it again at the expense of the player..Thank God 4 local tourneys!!

 

[REDLINE71]

THE PSP HAS DONE NOTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY MESSING EVERYTHING UP

NOT TO CHANGE THE TOPIC BUT AS FOR Trauma THERE READY TO MOVE UP TO THE PROS.... IN ATLANTIC CITY THEY PLAYED BETTER THEN DYNISTY AT LEAST I FEEL THIS WAY AFTER PLAYING BOTH TEAMS.

 

[steven09 (Exodus Capt)]

so i take it this is the world cup for 2002 i thought it was held in framce not much notice **** im confused because RDX are hoping to attend the next world cup but the people i have asked have had no idea so whens the next toulouse and who do you book in with

any help is much appreciated

thanks
steve RDX

 

[Liz]

Steven
Toulouse is the World 7-man championships, the US plays 5 or 10 man usually. The World Cup is an NPPL/PSP event, Toulouse is a Millennium event.
If it's Toulouse you're after entering, keep your eyes on the Millennium web site.

Anyway, we all know that the US national championships in any sport are called "World"

 

[Mark]

Originally posted by Liz
Anyway, we all know that the US national championships in any sport are called "World"

Yes very true but this is the only sporting event that the Americans call a "World" event where teams from around the world actually do play in, French, Russian, Brazillian, Swedish or and a few English teams all played last year (if I missed a couple of countrys feel free to set me right) and this thread is about the one in America not the Millennium series. seems a little strange that the Ams are having their own Tourny does this mean that the Pros are gonna use the Novice and Rookie teams for cannon fodder or do they have thier own Tourny as well (don't look like it !)

Pros v Ams sounds ok (points scored within the games go to their own leader board)
Novice v Rookie sounds ok (points scored within the games go to their own leader board)

But what appears to be happening doesn't seem that way in so far as yes the points will get totalled for the level of plays event but to get hammered by teams way above your standing...

Am v Am = ok
Pro v Pro = ok
Novice v Novice = ok
or
Pro v Am = better
Am v Novice = better

The above list is in an ideal world (then you have the clear choice to move up if you want)

Pro v Novice v Rookie = not good

Ok it has been said many times that to learn and improve you need to go up a notch/take the plunge....but to play within a division that has for example, Aftershock as the Pro, Team Backwoods and team Been around a while....who is going to be top of the pile and who isn't getting many points (even for their standings event)

The reasons for this happening aren't all that obvious, nor is it a purely money driven thing...yes Xball is part of the equation (but the finals at Disney WW of S was happening anyway Xball or not this was "known" back in the early part of the year way before Xball even took place)

As side note the classifications of Pro is still as it always was but Am was "Am A" and Novice is what was "Am B" and Rookie was introduced in the last year (basically speaking) so to any english people reading this is unware of how the PSP/NPPL classifies teams teams. thats why it may look a little wierd, espesially when the team listings are announced as to who is playing in what division.

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by Mark
1--seems a little strange that the Ams are having their own Tourny does this mean that the Pros are gonna use the Novice and Rookie teams for cannon fodder or do they have thier own Tourny as well (don't look like it !)

2--Ok it has been said many times that to learn and improve you need to go up a notch/take the plunge....but to play within a division that has for example, Aftershock as the Pro, Team Backwoods and team Been around a while....who is going to be top of the pile and who isn't getting many points (even for their standings event)

3--The reasons for this happening aren't all that obvious, nor is it a purely money driven thing...yes Xball is part of the equation (but the finals at Disney WW of S was happening anyway Xball or not this was "known" back in the early part of the year way before Xball even took place)

1--It isn't only strange, it's unique. Never happened before. And it's being done exclusively to accomodate X-Ball and how the eight invitation only teams are chosen.
2--in the prelims Ams and Novs play a Pro team, one game out of eight. The Rookies play no Pro team. So I expect that won't change for the Novs and Rookies.
Otherwise there are no prelim divisions per se. There is a block of 8 teams you play but the intradivision scores are irrelevant. Each team is matching up its score against other teams in its group; ie: Pro, Am, Nov.
3--'fraid they are completely obvious. Precisely because the Disney component was already part of the equation. Originally Sunday was set to hold Pro semis and finals and Am finals at Disney to showcasr the sport and the league's top talents. Now they're showcasing X-Ball using the "top" Pros in an exhibition. It's no longer about the league and the schedule was only changed to its current discombobulation after X-Ball's success at IAO and everybody was ready to jump on the bandwagon.

 

[Mark]

Originally posted by Baca Loco


2--in the prelims Ams and Novs play a Pro team, one game out of eight. The Rookies play no Pro team. So I expect that won't change for the Novs and Rookies.
Otherwise there are no prelim divisions per se. There is a block of 8 teams you play but the intradivision scores are irrelevant. Each team is matching up its score against other teams in its group; ie: Pro, Am, Nov.

Ok Baca whilst I can agree with your #1 answer and sorta #2 though don't think it is bandwagon jumping as you and I well know Disney was well in the pipeline long before X ball (outside pressures may have been applied once the success of X ball was predicted, plus an endevour to sooth any discomfort felt with the PSP NPPL split) but anyhow.


Your #2 look at the schedule at the begining of this thread Am's don't play anyone but themselves so it only leaves the Novice, the Rookies and the Pro's so unless the Rookies are gonna play against themselves the Divisions will be Pro, Novice and Rookie hence the "ideal world" list I posted for order of play due to ability
Not a great idea to face a Pro team as a Rookie or even as a Novice, (not saying you should never try and play a little harder and try to elevate your skills etc) The Am tourny (10 man is all over when the prelims start for the rest) so who is left to get hammered?? Plus I have read on places like pbnation (when the damned server wasn't crashing !!) that the Am's feel cheated out of a tourny (actually it is younger players bitching about having to miss school mainly, but then I will be there for the week before the tourny and for a couple of days after so it doesn't effect me, but does seem a little silly not to take the whole week as holiday...hey it is sunny Florida) I am in the situation of having to play teams above my rating ...personally I don't care but then for the "big picture" it needs to be raised that it appears unfair.

 

[Tony Montana]

Are you guys forgetting that more than half the teams that participate in NPPL tournaments are Rookie and/or Novice? And that of these teams very few actually have a real chance at winning or even making the finals?

These teams come to play the best. The play as hard as they can, but don't have real expectations of winning. Now with those assumptions made, who would they prefer to play? I believe it would be the pros.

The top Novice teams obviously don't want to play the pros. It likely lowers their score and they are there to win. But all the rest probably go BECAUSE they are going to get a chance to play the bigs boys.

I know my first trip to the NPPL was 100% based on wanting to go and play against the "big boys".