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Promotion of X-ball - all back to front?

Ben Frain

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This post is probably more relevant to the USA (NXL) than Europe (EXL), and perhaps being from the UK and having no frame of reference means my viewpoint is worth squat. However, here goes...

The Xball format or any format that allows proper games between two teams doesn't lend itself to the 'carnival' format of tournaments we have seen thus far.

Let me clarify a few things first. By 'proper game' I mean a game between two teams which an audience can follow and lasts a significant space of time e.g. 30-60mins. Not the usual style of 7 mins tops, with maybe a best of three for good measure.

A format that has two halves, easy to follow scoring, fast paced etc is typically going to be more audience friendly. However, the main selling point of the format, in my view, (which nobody makes a big deal about) is the fact that a game can happen and be finished inside of two hours.

Now most people reading this will have been to their fair share of tournaments. These tournaments are at best a day long and sometimes span 2 or 3. Suffice to say getting a band of loyal supporters to turn up and watch you play for 3 min chunks during that event isn't what most people would call a fun time. I think they are right.

So, rather than X-ball being presented amidst a multiple day 'carnival style' event why isn't the NXL just set up like other sports such as football (soccer for the US readers who insist on calling their *******isation of Rugby 'American Football' ;)) with set fixtures each week/month between teams at their own grounds.

Each team needs a hockey style arena (indoor preferably) with perspex screening, seating, refreshments at half time etc all the stuff you would associate with any other spectator sport.

Now I appreciate that it would be a major cost implication but I am talking small scale, perhaps big enough to seat a couple of thousand people, tops.

Then when New York play Baltimore everyone turns up at the appropriate 'stadium' for game on (e.g. 7.30pm Saturday), pays their $10 (or whatever) and watches the ball game.

That way, the teams involved in the league build up some local support, can generate cash from programmes, sales of team shirts and merchandise etc and also get some $ from ticket sales (which would be low to begin with obviously). What's more by actually having a regional base they are more likely to get financial support from affluent people/businesses in their area.

So... is this viable? What am I missing? There must be a reason this sort of thing hasn't already happened?

Or are the NXL just trying to put the cart before the horse?

With regards to the EXL, everybody moans about the cost of playing X-ball but it's because they play 4-5 games during a weekend, rather than 1 a week or month. Wouldn't it make more sense for the international teams to play each other twice during a 'season' at each others venues (e.g. each team plays 'home' one event and 'away' at another)? The way it's set up at the minute just appears a little backward shoehorned in amongst the 'old' style carnival event.
 

Burb

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Its a great idea, but sadly I doubt tournament players will travel across the States to watch Baltimore play New York, without getting a game themselves.

Until Paintball is being activally followed by non-players, they wont be able to fill the stadiums and lose money.
 
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Tommy Gun-Nexus

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I think this a great idea, and I really hope paintball progresses this way..

Unfortunately its not viable at the moment. Teams do not have the funding to travel around the world (or even nationally) to play one match of XBall. Think how much it would cost to send 15-18 players, hotel expenses and food for the players.

Also there isnt enough support for teams as paintball is still very underground. So hardly any money would be coming in to pay for their stadium and expenses.

Big ideas Ben :)
 

Ben Frain

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Originally posted by Burb
Its a great idea, but sadly I doubt tournament players will travel across the States to watch Baltimore play New York, without getting a game themselves.

Until Paintball is being activally followed by non-players, they wont be able to fill the stadiums and lose money.
But that's the whole point, with a local 'stadium' the people wouldn't be paintballers (necassarily), they would be fans/supporters. Just like at any other 'ball game'. :)
 

Ben Frain

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I know it seems out of the question Mr Lambini but at least this way round there is some possibility teams getting some revenue stream coming back in (merchandise, ticket sales etc) rather than expecting the league/sponsors to foot the bill for everything.

Let's face it, the TV deal has hardly made everyone superstars.

More succinctly I suppose the point is....

Why try to get the thing on TV and then find the audience. If you have your audience the jump to TV will be automatic. Get bums on seats every week/fortnight, then TV will be knocking on your door. No?
 

mikeyR

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Your idea is excellant and probably the vision all those at the top of the XBall world had in mind when they started the venture.

The only trouble is you have a catch 22 situation when it comes to making reality.

Without the bums on seats you don't attract the TV.

Without the TV you don't get the bums on seats because they are not exposed to the format.

It would take a serious promotion effort to get the first season off the ground without TV and get people into the stadiums.

And it does all boil down to the mighty $ - without that you ain't doing diddly!
 
Originally posted by Ben Frain

Why try to get the thing on TV and then find the audience. If you have your audience the jump to TV will be automatic. Get bums on seats every week/fortnight, then TV will be knocking on your door. No?
Because 'Build it and they will come' only works in tha movies...why spend money on stadia based on a 'what if'...that is insanity.

Fact: There is no audience. In tha new hi-tech media age, everything is being turned on its head - TV, if succesful, will create an audience...but that audience is unlikely to ever percolate down to actually going and watching matches, wherever they may be played, because an entire Paintball match is Dullsville.

Tha sooner everyone just deals with that, accepts that people watching whole matches - on TV or in tha flesh - is not gonna work, and moves on, tha sooner we'll all get wherever it is we're going.
 

Piper

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Originally posted by TJ Lambini

Tha sooner everyone just deals with that, accepts that people watching whole matches - on TV or in tha flesh - is not gonna work, and moves on, tha sooner we'll all get wherever it is we're going.
Don't hold your breath...................................... on second thoughts :D