Powerplay (Campaign DVD)
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Hey Chip you have a region 1 NTSC DVD player and the Disc was writen in the PAL format is why you can't play it. Just like NTSC TVs and VCRs can't see PAL TV or Video.
Now I'm getting very confused. I have a region 2 DVD player but had it chipped to play region 1 DVDs as well. Got a load of Region 1 DVDs at home (the US versions of a film nearly always have better extras than the European version) & don't have any problem in playing either on my player. I thought the region thing was simply down to the manufacturers wanting to ensure that we in the UK couldn't watch the film on a DVD imported from the US before it was released in the UK cinemas. Plus, of course, the fact that they can rip us off for more money in the UK!
So in theory, as long as the manufacturer doesn't put regional coding onto the DVD, it should be playable on both region 1 & region 2 players.
So in theory, as long as the manufacturer doesn't put regional coding onto the DVD, it should be playable on both region 1 & region 2 players.
Yes a disc without a Region coding on it should play on any dvd player.
The problem I think is UK players can output PAL, PAL60 & NTSC which most newish televisions in the UK can recognise.
PAL (50hz - 25 frames a second)is the standard UK signal
PAL 60 is a NTSC signal which has been converted by the DVD player to a PAL signal that some older televisions need
NTSC (60hz - 30 frames a second)standard US signal normal have to have a newer television running through scart 1 on tele's
Now the problem is US players are designed in general to only output a NTSC because most films are released in the States before here and as Liz said with loads on extras, so they don't want to import films from the UK to the states.
Where as when the format was released in the States the UK manufactures realised that most people would buy from there (because when it first started US spec discs were always better than UK - maybe not as much now but back then they were), they designed this into the UK spec players to handle the different formats (PAL, NTSC) and to get by the region coding, it either needed chipping but there were also a lot of players that unlocked the region via a remote hack or a firmware upgrade via a manufacturers update disc.
So basically I belive its down to the fact that the two systems run at differently frequencies 50hz(UK) and 60HZ(US) - UK systens can handle both but the US on only handles 60Hz.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I hope it helps explain.
P.S Any chance the campaign DVD is gonna be on sale at the big game?
Laterz
Sypher365
sorry to be boring but.....
the reason US machines(region 1) put out NTSC is because its the US tv standard! They don't do PAL coz:
a: it ain't used in the states
b: PAL has more lines of resolution than NTSC so its pretty hard to get it to fit on a NTSC tv nicely.
the reason UK machines do PAL and NTSC is because they are designed to play region 2(UK,Europe and Japan)discs.PAL isn't used in all the region 2 area so machines are needed to play NTSC discs as well(yep you can get region 2 NTSC discs, i got a few
)
don't confuse PAL and NTSC with Regional coding. it ain't the same thing.
Chip, my dvd is multiregion and when i put the campaign disc in i didn't have to set my player to region 2( as far as i can remember) yours isn't a PAL/NTSC issue its a region thang baby!
tb-303
sorry to be boring but.....
the reason US machines(region 1) put out NTSC is because its the US tv standard! They don't do PAL coz:
a: it ain't used in the states
b: PAL has more lines of resolution than NTSC so its pretty hard to get it to fit on a NTSC tv nicely.
the reason UK machines do PAL and NTSC is because they are designed to play region 2(UK,Europe and Japan)discs.PAL isn't used in all the region 2 area so machines are needed to play NTSC discs as well(yep you can get region 2 NTSC discs, i got a few
)don't confuse PAL and NTSC with Regional coding. it ain't the same thing.
Chip, my dvd is multiregion and when i put the campaign disc in i didn't have to set my player to region 2( as far as i can remember) yours isn't a PAL/NTSC issue its a region thang baby!
tb-303
tb-303
OK
But isn't that what I said, I just went into the reasons why manufactures make their players multi-region.
To recap:
PAL has 625 horizontal lines making up the vertical resolution.
NTSC has 525 horizontal lines making up the vertical resolution and this is why it runs at 30Frames/sec (uk 25) to make a smoother picture(because of less lines) - it is also why a NTSC film converted to PAL also has a different running time.
The fundamentals of video standards
Video : Frames/sec : Frequency (Hz) : Colour signal (MHz)
NTSC : 30 : 60 : 3.58
PAL : 25 : 50 : 4.43
PAL 60 : 30 : 60 : 4.43
Standard PAL is referred to as simply "PAL" or "PAL 50"
Pseudo-PAL (also known as Quasi-PAL) is referred to as PAL 60.
Most UK/DVD's tele's accept all where as US ones don't.
And I know you can get Region 2 disc's that are NTSC most of them seem to be the American wrestling DVD's (friend bought one only played B/W because his tele was to old) that they couldn't be bothered to convert to PAL.
But hey what does it matter we are just trying to help
Peace
Just remember the French use SECAM.....
OK
But isn't that what I said, I just went into the reasons why manufactures make their players multi-region.
To recap:
PAL has 625 horizontal lines making up the vertical resolution.
NTSC has 525 horizontal lines making up the vertical resolution and this is why it runs at 30Frames/sec (uk 25) to make a smoother picture(because of less lines) - it is also why a NTSC film converted to PAL also has a different running time.
The fundamentals of video standards
Video : Frames/sec : Frequency (Hz) : Colour signal (MHz)
NTSC : 30 : 60 : 3.58
PAL : 25 : 50 : 4.43
PAL 60 : 30 : 60 : 4.43
Standard PAL is referred to as simply "PAL" or "PAL 50"
Pseudo-PAL (also known as Quasi-PAL) is referred to as PAL 60.
Most UK/DVD's tele's accept all where as US ones don't.
And I know you can get Region 2 disc's that are NTSC most of them seem to be the American wrestling DVD's (friend bought one only played B/W because his tele was to old) that they couldn't be bothered to convert to PAL.
But hey what does it matter we are just trying to help
Peace
Just remember the French use SECAM.....
RE:tb-303
i was gonna go in to it more but i think all that needs to, has been said without clogging up the forum with PAL and NTSC jargon.
I deal with this all day at work without doing it here!
tb-303
good job they don't have any discs worth havingOriginally posted by Sypher365
Just remember the French use SECAM.....
i was gonna go in to it more but i think all that needs to, has been said without clogging up the forum with PAL and NTSC jargon.
I deal with this all day at work without doing it here!
tb-303
When you finally get to watch it I am sure I will hear all about it RIGHT?Originally posted by cjohns
Well, whatever it is I still can't watch the damn thing and it is pissing me off