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Tony Harrison

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Received gun last night and aired it up for the first time this morning.

There is a serious leak coming from between the grip frame and the body.

It does not work, so I would like a full refund, please.

Coincidentally, the other Demon I bought this last week is the same, but worse.

Luckily, I also bought an Etha and an Etek this week, and they both work fine.
 
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renie

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Received gun last night and aired it up for the first time this morning.

There is a serious leak coming from between the grip frame and the body.

It does not work, so I would like a full refund, please.

Coincidentally, the other Demon I bought this last week is the same, but worse.

Luckily, I also bought an Etha and an Etek this week, and they both work fine.
Sounds like the QEV its a common fault but normally easy fix
 
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Tony Harrison

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Still waiting for a refund or reply of any kind.

If I do not have either by 9am Monday, I'll open a paypal dispute.
 

rexy

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right sorry i've not replied sooner been very busy this weekend, erm i kid of need to raise a couple of issues with you about this and i'll be asking for Mod involvement because of these.
foot won't be the mod involved with this due to being part of the sale in regards to pre-postage inspection of the marker and combined postage.

firstly theres the reply to this thread about recieving it on friday evening.......... this wasnt the case as i recieved a txt tuesday from foot to say you'd recieved the marker and were happy with it.



so you've had the marker 3 days longer than you posted in this thread that you had

secondly the original thread which the mods can see stated that it was sold as seen, backed up with a video of the marker shooting perfectly and as the camera was next to the marker it surely would have picked up a hiss or other sounds of a leak. also i aired the marker up before taking it to foot on saturday with no leaks. when i got to foot's he told me you'd asked him to have a look over the marker before it was posted to you along with the item he was sending yourself aswell (hence combining the items posted as cost to us and not yourself). surely if there'd been a problem/issue with the marker foot would have recitfied the issuse at cost to myself before posting the marker to you or letting us both know that there was a serious issue with it and that it couldnt be sent. this was not the case as after leaving it with foot saturday i heard nothing more until monday that it had been posted and tuesday that you'd recieved it and was happy with it.

ive just gotten off the phone with foot and he seems to think the leak with my marker could be the result of the weakest part of the demon (QEV) could have failed due to that you might be using a high pressure reg where as myself and foot use mid pressure regs and the marker was set up accordingly. its not as it you dont have the parts to fix the issue as youve listed them up for sale on here yesterday

http://p8ntballer-forums.com/threads/£100-of-demon-spares-for-£70.155688/

also it seems that due to having an minor issue with my marker and also one you bought through Bojjob

http://p8ntballer-forums.com/threads/ubersexy-kit-clearout-deadlywind-barrel-cam-eclipse-huge-price-drops.154799/page-4#post-1405251

but as you posted exactly the same thing in both threads it's a little hard to determine which markers your refering to each time and when you recieved each marker as theres the pm sent to foot that say differently. also as you said that you've bought an etha and an etek and have your VG spares up for sale yesterday also it seems that because of a minor issuse with mine that must have devleoped in transit or in your possession and a second demon bought listed as having a leak you seem to have become dishearted with VG's and are wanting refunds just because of changing your mind after stating in the reply you'd picked up 2 PE markers also.

in regards to a refund as it looks with the posts and threads you've changed you mind on VG's when my marker was sold and posted fully working that im unhappy to refund you the money as sale was completed marker recieved and then 4 days after recieveing you've changed your mind. for these reasons im asking for mod involvement and when they reach a decision on this either way i'll stick by there choice.
if they decide you should get a refund then i'll refund you but i'll inform you now that due to my work situation it'll take me a while to get the £240 together!
 
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rexy

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Here is the original posting unedited for public view



Right up for sale is my 2012 Vanguard Demon

Firstly for the mods:

Demon & spares kit
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00761.jpg

Unitec barrels
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00762.jpg

VG 2012 Demon in Gloss Red/Dust Black (usually there in Gloss Black/Dust *colour* hence SE)
original box
marker
all the usual gubbins, full set of allen keys, lube, dvd( manual &servicing vids on it), charge lead & 3 types of plug adaptor, blank warrenty card, spare battery, barrel back, two standard barrels 0.685 & 0.689
sticker sheet has gone walkies somewhere
shot count 15340 so barely worn in
has latest parts for a 2012 as listed in the original thread
3 small marks on it that i know off but there pictured below on the back of the asa, valve cap and from the grub screw on back of the trigger
v slight anno wear on 689 front, couldnt see any on the 685 front.
only thing to mention is the feedneck started to become loose and when i tightened it the ally gave way to the bolt and therefore would no longer tighten, ive sourced a replacement gloss black feedneck not noticeable but will include the original feedneck so you can get new one anno'd the same colour should be v little cost wise to get done jus never bothered me.

literally picked up the marker from being serviced by foot this afternoon, no leaks/issuses and was shown working and i did a video when i got home to show shooting and no leaks/hisses.

right now the spares kit, honestly theres evough o-rings, spare screws, bolts to service the marker at least 5/6 times over, every size o-ring the demon could ever need plus loads of grub screws, bolts, detents & springs, diaphrams, trigger bearings, 3 sets of spare eyes, 2 solenoids, spare board and another spare battery. cost me £150 brand new and ive used maybe 4 or 5 o-rings max.

would prefer the spares kit to go with the marker so new owner doesnt need to worry about orings and the like.

will be posted RM special delivery (as over 2kg is £24.50)
looking for £450 posted
sold as seen
buyer pays fees or payment owed
would consider cash on collection/delivery if farly local to Northamptonshire.
please no low balls/silly offers
sensible offers via the thread only considered
would consider trades

orginal sale thread from the guy i bought it off is here:
http://p8ntballer-forums.com/threads/spe....3/#post-1342504

2x 0.693 unitec barrels a/c threaded 14" barrels, no backs just barrels, one in black one in silver
£15 each inc posted same stuff as demon no lowballs etc..

Video:
http://youtu.be/NSV_DTlmQFc

Pics:
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00757.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00756.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00758.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00753.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00759.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00768.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00767.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00739.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00738.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00743.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00747.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00749.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00751.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00744.jpg

Spares Kit:
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00741.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00742.jpg

Unitec Barrels:
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00764.jpg
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/rexyuk/IMG-20130218-00765.jpg

Thanks For Looking.

Rexy.

 

Tony Harrison

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I'm fine with getting the Mods involved. I can send the gun to a mod of your choice for verification of the fault, but return postage would be at your expense.

When I received both guns, I was happy with them - I had one in red/black, one in black/red, as I wanted. I also had barrels & spares to go with them, as I already had the unitec barrels in black & red.

It was not until the weekend that I had the chance to get air to air them up, and found the faults that I have outlined.

I believe a gap of 3 days between receiving the gun, getting air, finding the fault and reporting it to you is reasonable & acceptable.

I tried two different tanks. The gun does not appear to be sealing, as air blows straight through it.

I bought the two Eclipse guns at the same time I bought the two Demons. Foot will verify that. Both of those worked fine when I aired them up, again using the same two tanks. I have used the same tanks on other guns - cockers, Angel A1's with no issues.

As regards your assertion that I have changed my mind regarding Vanguard guns, that is just your assumption, and it is your perogative to make any assumption you wish.

I previously owned a couple of Creeds, which were fine. I was very disappointed to find both Demons were faulty as soon as I received them, and being as I am not a Vanguard tech I did not relish the prospect of trying to fix them both as soon as I took them out of the box.

I don't lie about the state of paintball guns. I don't need to. Check my buying/selling history for proof.

I would like a refund. The gun will be boxed and sent back to you as it arrived, and I will include spares so it can be fixed before it is sold on.

When can I expect a refund?
 

Tony Harrison

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As a side note, is there a QEV in the parts kit you have or in the one that foot sold me?

I can't see one listed.