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Every sport was somewhat young at a certain stage, like Football (soccer u yanks), basketball etc but they were created yonks ago,( i dont know when Basketball was created but i dont like it anyway :) )

Footy on the other hand was created more than a century ago and look at it today, the most popular sport in the world with many world class stadiums.

So how long will Pball wait until its got its very own status to rival football?
Already tourneys are sometimes played in sports stadiums and thats a good move but when will pball have its own sports stadium?
10yrs 20yrs?30yrs? (hope not)

As i heard it isnt even recognised as a sport yet, but people like Robbo is, ahem....gunnin for it to be recognised as a sport
:)

Most sports get recognition via the media who already screen very little of it.
The campaign cup this september is being screened on Sky but why not screen more tourneys like this?

To get this recognised more we need big outside sponsors like Coca Cola, Nike, Addidas etc.
When these companies get into it wont we see a bigger influx of interest?
Im sure the sports clothes giants like Nike will be interested once more media coverage is given.

If this happens it could open up a good market opportunity.
Along with companies such as Dye, JT etc Nike and Addidas could sell their sports jerseys for Pball in sports stores such as JJB and other big sports chains.
WDP, smartparts etc selling markers and other equipment can also be done.

Wouldnt this make Pball attractive to many people?

What Pball needs is more media coverage in order to give it more appeal.
Many people think its a wargame when thats just restricted to red-ball.
It aint so in tournaments, but how many people know about the tournaments going on when all we do is keep it to ourselves by means of websites or phone.

Things such as posters, news announcments paper articles etc can prove decisive but one problem that we will have with spectators is the woodland tournamnet scenario.
Can u erect a massive seating stadium in the woods? NO.
In concept fields you can

In more ways than one do we have to pull paintball outta the woods and into the concept sup air fileds altogether?
I think so.
The woods aint too appealing to me either but is one factor of our problem to solve public views on Pball?

To them, playing in the woods with guns is classed as a wargame and this is not appealing to them, but a place which is open and attractive such as concept fields are a kind of pulling power.

To put yourself in a none biased view of it all, would you go to see football, basketball,baseball etc when it is played in the woods? No.

Giving the public access via concept fields or stadiums is what they want to do.
This will alter their perception that it can be a sport and not forever be a wargame to them.

Tourney paintball needs more commercial muscle if it is to be a popular sport for decades to come and media coverage is what we need first and most.
We have a limited amount of it but not enough, sell the DVD/Vid's of tournaments in rental shops and not just in paintball mags and paintball shops.
How often does someone who never (walkin into a Pball shop) played the sport wants the PUSH DVD?

Send out copies to Blockbuster and this will rake in interest.
Rent before u buy appeals to most and its giving a good insight into ballin, not rec-ball.

I dont think we will be erecting 500 new stadiums over the next decade for Pball but a couple will do nicely, and from there who knows what will happen.

:) :)
 

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Originally posted by ||Ices||


As i heard it isnt even recognised as a sport yet, but people like Robbo is, ahem....gunnin for it to be recognised as a sport

Not so much Robbo as yours truely :)

As for the rest of your essay. Time will tell but things really do happen behind the scenes

Unfortunately Paintball has three major, if not insurmountable, problems

(1) Image (not the team... although... :p )

(2) Bureaucracy (The Sports Councils in the UK are Red-Tape incarnate :( )

(3) Paintball is difficult to film properly. To be done right it needs a lot of camera angles (and therefore money)
 

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Good thread Ices with plenty of valid points.

To add my own thoughts I'd start by saying that I very much doubt the sport we all love, will ever rival the likes of football/rugby/cricket/tennis.

These mainstay sports are easy to follow, very familiar, and they have a ball which an audience can concentrate on and track how the game develops. Our sport is complex and doesn't make for easy watching by a crowd.

There's also the huge issue of education that joe public would have to under go, to get him/her to realise that tourney ball exists and can be accessed by them.

The other things you mention regarding external sponsorship and media coverage are actually part of a vicious cycle which is hard to break. No media coverage without public interest - no public interest with big brand sponsors - no big brand sponsors without media coverage.

My thoughts on how we might address this is that actually loads of good stuff is moving us in the right direction already. Campaign Cup (and any high profile tourney) will have a huge part to play in how the sport grows. Outside sponsorship is possible but takes a structured and co-ordinated approach.

If we can go to the brands with the right info that backs up that a return on investment is possible via the paintball community we should be able to secure some of the big names. Red Bull sponsors both a hang gliding and paragliding team which compete in most global events. These two sports may have slightly more public interest than us, but not that much more!! Surely with our sport's links to alternative youth culture (how many of us, particulalry the yanks, enjoy skate boarding and snow boarding in addition to this sport ) would be a great aid in getting some of the youth brands to take a chance on us.

To sum up, I think great things are going to happen for paintball and we are moving in the right direction.

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gonna be played by apes, not humans, and Robbo's head is gonna be in a jar, a la futurama Richard Nixon style
 
Hotpoint My self and Yorkie fight the good fight too, with the sports council I hope eventually we will getthe reconition we desreve:)

Well I for one leave a trail of paintball behind me in my wake if I go to anywere witha waiting room I donate a mag mew:( but it gets to people who would never read about us. tee hee especially as they are traped some were with dead booring mags doctors, dentist ect. I am also going to ask local libary if I can sponsor them a PGI per month if only on trial to start with they have all other sports stuff fishing ect so why not.

All our rental customers are "educated" as to the exhistance of tourney ball and what is going on in the wider sence of paintball.

Being a girl playing we do stand out so it's up to us to promte a positve image for paintball:D

I would like to think we could all support Yorkie's idear of paintball awareness day next year. World wide would be good even if we all wore our clothes for the day and carried PGI to show the unconverted.

Sup air is the way forward and better facilitys too it's one thing to feed players fast food ect with lousey loos ect but if you want the public to come you need better facilitys.

Ok guy must dash now I look forward to seeing were this one runs to.

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Originally posted by ||Ices||
If this happens it could open up a good market opportunity.
Along with companies such as Dye, JT etc Nike and Addidas could sell their sports jerseys for Pball in sports stores such as JJB and other big sports chains.
WDP, smartparts etc selling markers and other equipment can also be done.
Don't think that it would be so interesting for JT & DYE Clothes. Big players like Nike, Adidas, Reebok would just blow JT & DYE Clothes from the market. On the other hand it would be really great, companies who put billion of dollars into marketing would make some really great Paintballclothes, the spectrum of Designs would grow & grow. And there would be REAL technology in paintball clothing.

jus my 2 cents...
 

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I have made it my mission as a trainee journalist to promote the sport. In fact I want to be known for my advances in making paintball a highly viewed and highly paid sport! I have done a feature on it for the local news and harrass the sports reporter everytime something happens - he just lets me get on with it now!!

As much as I want it to be big and I think it could be the two main forces in holding it back are the following:

Firstly, it isn't a very spectator friendly sport and so a lot of cameras are needed to film it to make the impact felt. If the paint was easier to follow through the air it would be better - just a thought for paint manufacturers to follow-up.

And secondly, and I suppose this seems petty but it is as equally as important are the attitudes of some players especcially towards girls playing and until that is sorted it will never be taken seriously by the organisations that have to be politically correct these days. I know girls football is not as big as mens football but that is not what I mean. If a girls team is playing then it is either laughed at or most the men stare with their eyes falling out. (I say most because some men, including my boyfriend, are not so sex orientated.) But I do realise that sex sells, to men anyway. Anyway, as a girl that is promoting the sport I think we deserve more respect.

But hey - that is just my opinion.
 

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I dont have a prob with women and girls playing this sport.

Its a free country and if they are capable of doing it, why not?
If they can get in the army then they can get in here :)

people dont need to follow the paint, and i doubt the manufacturers will make em go slower, but its the action that counts as well.

it may not become as big as football but as long as it gets recognised then itll work
 

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Originally posted by Storm Pig
And secondly, and I suppose this seems petty but it is as equally as important are the attitudes of some players especcially towards girls playing and until that is sorted it will never be taken seriously by the organisations that have to be politically correct these days. I know girls football is not as big as mens football but that is not what I mean. If a girls team is playing then it is either laughed at or most the men stare with their eyes falling out. (I say most because some men, including my boyfriend, are not so sex orientated.) But I do realise that sex sells, to men anyway. Anyway, as a girl that is promoting the sport I think we deserve more respect.

But hey - that is just my opinion.
Hey Storm Pig, you should have been around playing 10 years ago if you want to know about a bad attitude towards women players! There has been a vast improvement over the last few years, it's just got an awful lot further to go. Teams like yours & mine are doing their best to change this attitude, but we aren't helped that whenever someone says "we want more women in paintball" it always degenerates into "we want more hot-looking chicks playing paintball, or hanging around in the staging area":mad:
I gather you lot had a bit of a bad time in Portugal when it came to attitude from some other teams - my commiserations there, I know what it can be like. Just ignore the comments, get on the field & shoot the sh*t out of them :D
 

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I have to disagree with the following paint and I wasn't suggesting the paint went slower - just that it was more visable, and no - I don't mean make it bigger either. I can't see how going slower would help the sport. ok so don't follow the paint but you have to have the initial firing and the result to make it watchable. Well that is the feedback I got from my report. And no, the sport needs to lend itself to be being watched. If it doesn't who is going to recognise it and why would they put money into it.

Liz - I wasn't having a go about teams in Portugal, I am just saying what I find in paintball in general. I wasn't around ten years ago - I would have been too young to play - and I think that it will get better. It is just a shame not more girls play.

My opinion is just based on my limit experience from both paintball and working in television and no one can argue with that.