oil or grease
- Thread starter PKR WOODY
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Can't talk much about markers as I'm fairly new on them, but I am experienced enough in other matters like motorcycles, and definitively a vegetable oils is NOT a good idea to apply in any machine. And the incorrect lubrication can lead to o-ring swallow, breakage and other issues. So you better use the manufacturer's recommended or equivalent.
And no, cooking oil no. Cooking oil saturates on low temperatures and degrades fast with time and temperature.
And no, cooking oil no. Cooking oil saturates on low temperatures and degrades fast with time and temperature.
I would just like to point out that more often than not, the clue is in the name.
eg cooking oil is generally used for cooking not marker lube.
Although i agree that many oils may be similar and work seemingly just as well or better than recommended, there is a reason the manufacturer recommends the use of those oils or greases.
Like Tommikka said some oils can have bad effects on your Orings and marker overall. Oils that are specially formulated for certain uses often contain compounds that are designed to aid the operation and sometimes help keep the device they're meant for clean internally. Those same compounds can be in some cases very unfriendly, potentially corrosive to rubber (Orings, gaskets etc) and even certain plastics.
I personally only use Planet oil and carry Dowe 33 (Planet grease) and Dowe 55.
Why spend good money, often hundreds of pounds on a marker and put crap in it when the proper stuff is readily available and inexpensive. Planet oil less than £5 & grease less than £8.
eg cooking oil is generally used for cooking not marker lube.
Although i agree that many oils may be similar and work seemingly just as well or better than recommended, there is a reason the manufacturer recommends the use of those oils or greases.
Like Tommikka said some oils can have bad effects on your Orings and marker overall. Oils that are specially formulated for certain uses often contain compounds that are designed to aid the operation and sometimes help keep the device they're meant for clean internally. Those same compounds can be in some cases very unfriendly, potentially corrosive to rubber (Orings, gaskets etc) and even certain plastics.
I personally only use Planet oil and carry Dowe 33 (Planet grease) and Dowe 55.
Why spend good money, often hundreds of pounds on a marker and put crap in it when the proper stuff is readily available and inexpensive. Planet oil less than £5 & grease less than £8.
I personally use a specialist lubricant Named "Uber lube" Designed & patented I believe by John Sosta on my Empire axe. From day one out of the box I cleaned the manufacturers lube off and applied this. To date after using it this season last season and from the June of the season before twice a month at least (excluding December) I have not worn a single 'O' ring to a point where it is loose, letting by or any other affect it should not be doing.
Its really good stuff I would reccomend it as it is specially designed to coat but not clog
Its really good stuff I would reccomend it as it is specially designed to coat but not clog
i wouldnt go near cooking oil, you dont know what effects it might have in the long run, go with the grease/oil/lube that the manufacturer has specified you use, and being as though they are not much money, you dont have to worry about doing some weird "cheap" solution
Will
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and if it smells like food it will be in danger of getting bits bitten out of it by lunchtime!
I used to use gun oil and then a marshall told me that WD-40 does the job just fine and that I had been wasting money XD Using just WD-40 now.
The problem with WD-40 is that it is a very light oil, with a very low viscosity. It is great for short time applications and for rubber to metal applications, but not so good when you need the lubricant also to act as a sealant, preventing dust and dirt to join the internal parts of your marker, to keep your O-Rings properly sealing what they should be, and keeping metal with metal friction. For this applications you need grease, not very liquid oil that will evaporate in some hours.
Also, I know a bit about the effects of different compounds on O-Rings. Motorcycles got a lot of O-Rings on the chain, and there are very useful tests to check the effect of some of the most common oils on them (I can post it if you want) and WD-40 was far from optimal to rubber O-rings.
But at the end of the day, it is your marker and you decision.
Also, I know a bit about the effects of different compounds on O-Rings. Motorcycles got a lot of O-Rings on the chain, and there are very useful tests to check the effect of some of the most common oils on them (I can post it if you want) and WD-40 was far from optimal to rubber O-rings.
But at the end of the day, it is your marker and you decision.