NPPL Wants To Make You A Star

[headrock6]

Ok..When you were at HB,are you telling me that there wasnt just as much interest in NOV games as there was AM and PRO??People came to watch paintball regardless of division..When they got there,none of them knew the difference..If you put Novs in the limelight,people will start to take notice..Maybe not all Novs,but say teams like last years Static,Cartel,Hurricanes..Surely those teams can generate some worthy interest and pick up some fans along the way..

But explain to me why we shouldnt even take the chance on it..NPPL's not asking anything for it...No money,no nothing..All they want is the teams to take 20 mins out of their lives and then let them do the rest..****,whens the last time thats ever happened??Give up nothing,free promotion and possible rewards could be incredible..I cant see a downside to that any way I look at it..

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[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by headrock6
1--Ok..When you were at HB,are you telling me that there wasnt just as much interest in NOV games as there was AM and PRO??People came to watch paintball regardless of division..When they got there,none of them knew the difference..

2--If you put Novs in the limelight,people will start to take notice..Maybe not all Novs,but say teams like last years Static,Cartel,Hurricanes..Surely those teams can generate some worthy interest and pick up some fans along the way..

3--But explain to me why we shouldnt even take the chance on it..NPPL's not asking anything for it...No money,no nothing..All they want is the teams to take 20 mins out of their lives and then let them do the rest..****,whens the last time thats ever happened??Give up nothing,free promotion and possible rewards could be incredible..I cant see a downside to that any way I look at it..

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1--first exposure to the game, sure, the level of play doesn't matter but then neither do the teams 'cus people are either attracted to the game itself or they aren't. But that's only stage one.
2--Once you start to develop an educated audience they may very well appreciate some of the better lower division teams but you're still not telling how it's gonna work. Here I am in Vegas to see some PB. Why do I care about some team from Florida?
3--I never said don't do it.

 

[player12345]

Schedule

Not to mention that a few teams play 2 games on Friday and the rest on Sat. Plus after looking at the schedule it looks like that a few teams only have one or 2 games break inbetween. That will set the schedule back.

 

[headrock6]

Originally posted by Baca Loco
1--first exposure to the game, sure, the level of play doesn't matter but then neither do the teams 'cus people are either attracted to the game itself or they aren't. But that's only stage one.

Personally,I dont see any other stages if its gonna be 5 events spread out across the U.S...Paintballs not gonna have people following it across the country just to watch events,its gonna be drawing first timers and the people from the last one back to the events that are in those states..So why not make a wholehearted effort to get the outside who generally are attracted to the game interested in all the teams and not just Pros..The lower divisions really do have alot to offer and I think this is a good way to promote it..

Originally posted by Baca Loco
2--Once you start to develop an educated audience they may very well appreciate some of the better lower division teams but you're still not telling how it's gonna work. Here I am in Vegas to see some PB. Why do I care about some team from Florida?

Because NPPL promoting them will generate interest in them..If someone goes to an event for the first time,and get handed a program with Vicious on the cover and a whole write up inside,people will generally be interested in the team and possibly seek them out to see what all the fuss is about..Whether they like them or not is thier choice,but at least thier being seen...Personally,I dont care whether it works or not,because if it doesnt,its the effort that counts..

Originally posted by Baca Loco
3--I never said don't do it.

My bad-Sometimes the words dont come out exactly like I want them to..Im just very interested in why you think they wont work in general...I can wait a few more weeks but im getting itchy for an answer..And before you ask,the itchyness is from wanting an answer,nothing else

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[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by headrock6
1--Personally,I dont see any other stages if its gonna be 5 events spread out across the U.S...Paintballs not gonna have people following it across the country just to watch events
2--So why not make a wholehearted effort to get the outside who generally are attracted to the game interested in all the teams and not just Pros..The lower divisions really do have alot to offer and I think this is a good way to promote it..

3--Because NPPL promoting them will generate interest in them..If someone goes to an event for the first time,and get handed a program with Vicious on the cover and a whole write up inside,people will generally be interested in the team and possibly seek them out to see what all the fuss is about..Whether they like them or not is thier choice,but at least thier being seen..
4--Personally,I dont care whether it works or not,because if it doesnt,its the effort that counts..

5--My bad-Sometimes the words dont come out exactly like I want them to..Im just very interested in why you think they wont work in general...I can wait a few more weeks but im getting itchy for an answer..And before you ask,the itchyness is from wanting an answer,nothing else

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1--
2--what is the appeal of other sports popular in this country? (not a trick question and no one right answer)
3--that's one team. What about the other 75? You tell me how cool it is in a specific instance but that ignores how it works in the abstract for all 100 teams.
4--somebody has been watching "The Bad News Bears" again.
5--Don't pay too much attention to me. I could be wrong, ya know. I'm pretty sure I must have been wrong about something sometime . . .

 

[headrock6]

Originally posted by Baca Loco
1--

Im starting to see the light,if only for just a brief second

Originally posted by Baca Loco
2--what is the appeal of other sports popular in this country? (not a trick question and no one right answer).

I know where your going with this,but what draws me and many others for that matter to watch the Long Island Ducks when I have the Mets and Yankees 20 minutes from my apt??Definately not the skill level..Its the game itself that draws me(well and the $1 HotDogs and $1 beer nights)..And im not sure by you,but Minor League Farm systems in the East garner alot of attention from the public..

Originally posted by Baca Loco
3--that's one team. What about the other 75? You tell me how cool it is in a specific instance but that ignores how it works in the abstract for all 100 teams.

Unfortunately,the more I think about it,the more im starting to sway towards your reasoning,for now..To be honest,as hard as ive tried,I cant seem to see a viable way to accomodate 100 teams unless you space it out over all the events which sorta defeats the purpose..But who knows?It will definately be interesting to see just how this all pans out in a few months..

Originally posted by Baca Loco
4--somebody has been watching "The Bad News Bears" again.

1 word-ENGELBERG... LET THEM PLAY!!LET THEM PLAY!!

Originally posted by Baca Loco
5--Don't pay too much attention to me. I could be wrong, ya know. I'm pretty sure I must have been wrong about something sometime . . .

Ok Raehl,Umm Ooops,I mean Baca..And are we missing a post from this thread??

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[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by headrock6
1--I know where your going with this,but what draws me and many others for that matter to watch the Long Island Ducks when I have the Mets and Yankees 20 minutes from my apt??Definately not the skill level..Its the game itself that draws me(well and the $1 HotDogs and $1 beer nights)..And im not sure by you,but Minor League Farm systems in the East garner alot of attention from the public..
2--Unfortunately,the more I think about it,the more im starting to sway towards your reasoning,for now..To be honest,as hard as ive tried,I cant seem to see a viable way to accomodate 100 teams unless you space it out over all the events which sorta defeats the purpose..But who knows?It will definately be interesting to see just how this all pans out in a few months..
3--Ok Raehl,Umm Ooops,I mean Baca..And are we missing a post from this thread??

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1--not the same for a few reasons. Big League ball has a less than positive recent image, there is a disconnect between fans and mega-millionaire players and there already exists a lengthy history for the game itself. And, of course, the alternative you mention, the LOCAL, HOME TOWN minor league franchises don't equate with the specific PB situation we're discussing. All you've demonstrated is that baseball as a game still appeals to lots of people and fans are willing, heck, glad to, trade skill of the players for a connection to the team. And that only strengthens my argument.
(Why oh, why is the NBA in trouble when all the league does is market its personalities and stars?)
2--all you needed was someone to crush your natural youthful enthusiasm.
3--couple of differences between us I think but the important one for you to remember is I have The Button!

PS--whatever may have been removed from this thread appeared as a technical oversight but still had nothing to do with me.

 

[headrock6]

Originally posted by Baca Loco
1--And, of course, the alternative you mention, the LOCAL, HOME TOWN minor league franchises don't equate with the specific PB situation we're discussing. All you've demonstrated is that baseball as a game still appeals to lots of people and fans are willing, heck, glad to, trade skill of the players for a connection to the team. And that only strengthens my argument.
(Why oh, why is the NBA in trouble when all the league does is market its personalities and stars?)

But remember the city I live in...The Yankees last year drew 3 million fans and the Mets at a little over 2 million..That disconnection doesnt apply here..And while the minor leagues dont equate with the PB situation in general,it still shows that with proper marketing,anything can be sold to the public if done properly...But assuming your assesment of this whole situation is correct,then are we to believe that with the way the tourny PB scene is run as a whole,it has absolutely no chance of succeeding in the marketing world in its current format??Because its certainly starting to look that way..

And are you blaming the NBA for thier assinine players??Today the league is suffering from its worst player image problems ever..When the games biggest star(Allen Iverson),screams homophobic remarks at fans,you cant blame the league..DUI's are more frequent than free throws,and add to to that,domestic violence,intimidating a spouse with a pistol,and heres my favorite,impersonating a police officer..

We went through this in the 80's and yet they bounced back hard..I see no reason why it wont happen again...

Originally posted by Baca Loco
2--all you needed was someone to crush your natural youthful enthusiasm.
3--couple of differences between us I think but the important one for you to remember is I have The Button!

2)didnt take much effort did it

3)Really,is that all it is,is a Button??No red tape or anything..COOL ..Dont get any bright ideas..


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[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by headrock6
1--But assuming your assesment of this whole situation is correct,then are we to believe that with the way the tourny PB scene is run as a whole,it has absolutely no chance of succeeding in the marketing world in its current format??Because its certainly starting to look that way..

2--And are you blaming the NBA for thier assinine players??Today the league is suffering from its worst player image problems ever..

3--Really,is that all it is,is a Button??No red tape or anything..COOL ..Dont get any bright ideas..

1--not no chance because plainly there is a market and a demographic that interests certain kinds of potential sponsors but I do think the divide between the current tourney format and encouraging both a fan base and effective media presentation is a problem, a serious problem.
2--No, I'm suggesting marketing alone, no matter how brilliant or conventional (depending) won't do the job if the product on the floor doesn't measure up and the core fans have less and less reason to care about the successes and failures of their team(s).
3--not a button, THE BUTTON.