NPPL "discovers" new revenue source

[Intheno]

OK then.
You're gay!

There is one question you could answer though. Will you be playing at the Denver NPPL event? If so, why?
I would like to meet you though, if you are there. We have discussed the current way things are and picked at every aspect of it. I would be interested in hearing your alternative viable business proposal that incorporates your ideals in detail. I hope it is practical and makes sustainable business sense and caters for the players every need, otherwise I look forward to picking it apart peice by peice until there is nothing left but scraps. Please be sure to tie up the financial details, as this seems to be the area of contention. Besides, meeting you will be a great pleasure I am sure.

The role you enjoy is an easy one Comrade, in that it requires only the efforts of others to fuel it.

Of course, I am presuming that as a Mod you know my secret identity and can search me out to enlighten me.

Peace and Love

 

[TJ Lambini]

A dual!

You sir, are a cad and a boundah - take that.

(Cue slap with velvet glove).

How British...right Cow, you gots to meet ITN face to face, mano et cow-o, and have a business proposal showdown...kinda like a breakdance head-to-head but with reams of financial projections, marketing speak and blue skies thinking instead of moonwalks an caterpillars...

I will be tha judge.

Bring it.

 

[Intheno]

we could do it to music, so long as Comrade Loco can find music he doesn't believe to be an expoitation of the performers true talent. Or perhaps music in general is not acceptable, due to its ability to bend minds for corporate gain and influence the kids of today through lyrics that promote yadayadayada, all of which I understand, obviously...

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by Intheno
1--OK then.
You're gay!

2--There is one question you could answer though. Will you be playing at the Denver NPPL event? If so, why?
3--I would like to meet you though, if you are there. We have discussed the current way things are and picked at every aspect of it. I would be interested in hearing your alternative viable business proposal that incorporates your ideals in detail. I hope it is practical and makes sustainable business sense and caters for the players every need, otherwise I look forward to picking it apart peice by peice until there is nothing left but scraps.
4--Please be sure to tie up the financial details, as this seems to be the area of contention.
5--Besides, meeting you will be a great pleasure I am sure.

6--The role you enjoy is an easy one Comrade, in that it requires only the efforts of others to fuel it.

7--Of course, I am presuming that as a Mod you know my secret identity and can search me out to enlighten me.

Peace and Love

OK, Intheno, since you've changed the subject (a bit) and made something like a fair point I'll respond to it. Unlike you I might point out, as you have to yet to directly respond to any question I've asked.

1--you wish.
2--I was hoping to (though a certain unnamed Pro will be filling in for me instead) and I may yet attend. Am waiting to hear on some last minute details. As to why, I like playing and there will be a lot of peeps in Denver I wouldn't mind seeing.
3--you tell me yours first. Now why should I do that when you won't? Gotcha again.
4--please go back and read the half dozen times where I state unequivocally and categorically PP is entitled to make whatever profit they can manage. That wasn't the issue.
5--no doubt.
6--You seem to be having difficulty in actually reading what I'm writing or else I'm not being anything like clear. The simple fact that I aggressively question things and challenge people like you doesn't mean I have some dark hidden agenda. I am rather doing two things: 1) Giving those questioned an opportunity to shut me up by simply answering the questions and 2) hopefully encouraging the general body of competitive players to periodically engage their brains. Doesn't mean I'm after the NPPL anymore than I'm after the NXL or the PSP when I question some of the things they're doing.
Is it easier to ask questions than run the league? I certainly hope so. It would also, it seems to me, be easier to answer simple questions than to frame every debate in apocalyptic Paintball terms as if the future of the game rested on the willingness of the players to start buying butt space on the bleachers.

As it relates to the bigger picture PP has chosen to lead. To promise superior events (and in many cases have delivered them) and offer a vision of PB's future. A vision replete with popularity, sport status and TV. PP routinely parlays that vision into additional demands placed on the players. As both customers and (non-stock holding) investors [after all, the players are betting their competitive futures] it seems only sensible to question just how we are gonna get from A to Z and what it's going to mean for the players involved.

 

[Jester1]

On a side note, renting bleachers for seating only runs about $400 per 100 seats. Seems to me PP could afford a few of these with all the entry money they take in rather than try to extract even more from the player's pockets.

 

[Intheno]

check me out. The P8ntballer guys have made me Peoples SuperMod.

I'd like to thank all the people who made this possible, my Mom, Comrade Baca Loco, Shamu, TJ, and all the guys at P8ntballer.com
You are all hella rad!

 

[Intheno]

Baca,
there are reasons why I can't answer all your questions specifically. These are either (in no particular order)
1. I don't know the answer
2. I know the answer but don't want you to know it
3. The questions assume that the NPPL and Pure Promotions are the same thing. We know that WDP and PP are the same thing, but when you pay your memberships etc who do you think that goes to. Or do you not know?

You assume that moneys paid to the NPPL are available to PP. I do not have the same assumption and without the knowledge of the set-up here, which in itself is a mystery, I don't think you will understand the logistics, and will therefore ask other questions, and so on, until we die of old age.
Though I enjoy our banter I just don't have the time for it sometimes, and other times it just seems that your opinion is already final.
If you worked on your knowledge of what cash goes where you would have a better chance of seeing the finantial picture. Don't ask me though, I don't really care so long as the events are top notch and I think I get value.

I blame WDP, they have been mysterious and unpredictable from the beginning, and trying to get to grips with how that company operates is like trying to comb smoke.


back to your post. Why should I tell you my financial proposal? I don't need one, you do. I am a sheep and happy to follow PP's lead, you are the one with the conspiracy theory and the 'anger'

By the way, the absence of smily faces doesn't mean that I am not smiling. I don't use them because I think they are gay....

 

[Wadidiz]

I generally think charging for seats is a good idea for the big tournaments. If something is "free" that implies that it is worthless. People often dispise or ignore that which doesn't have a price tag affixed to it. Therefore I think PP is on the right track to raise the real and perceived value of getting a 50-yard line view of top-level playing. They have done a brilliant job of marketing and have created a new marketing challege for themselves. Let's see how the do.

I do, however, think they ought to have good, reserved seating for those with player passes. It is only basic respect.

The main thing is that charging for seating shows some moxy.

Steve