NPPL bans pink paint
- Thread starter Baca Loco
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No, the problem is stained venues. The NPPL is putting us in very visible locations, but those locations are becoming stained due to none other then staining paint 
I'd like to still shoot pink paint, it marks the best and the pink paint we have been shooting this season as been right on the money, but if this is what it takes to keep up in these venues, it shouldn't be a big deal to the teams. Just to keep it in perspective, we played at Huntington Beach and outside the Tampa Bucs stadium this season already, pretty cool venues for paintball!
I'd like to still shoot pink paint, it marks the best and the pink paint we have been shooting this season as been right on the money, but if this is what it takes to keep up in these venues, it shouldn't be a big deal to the teams. Just to keep it in perspective, we played at Huntington Beach and outside the Tampa Bucs stadium this season already, pretty cool venues for paintball!
Also it can stain the fields. As i said earlier i think it happened to the PA. They had been lent a field and threw no fault of their own it got stained... obviously not a nice situation for anyone.
Also to be fair, although it may sound abit petty but some peeps (without sponsorship) pay a fair bit of money for new jerseys every season. It'd be pretty annoying aving one recked at the first event you wear it because of staining pink paint. It's not as if other colours are hard to get!
-EDD
Also to be fair, although it may sound abit petty but some peeps (without sponsorship) pay a fair bit of money for new jerseys every season. It'd be pretty annoying aving one recked at the first event you wear it because of staining pink paint. It's not as if other colours are hard to get!
-EDD
Okay, the new rule now has my blessing..... and so it is.
Edd, I get what you're saying about your jersey, but it's like a football player (American or that other kind) complaining about getting stains out of his jersey. I'm not advocating that triple-staining kind of paint that won't come off your hands until you burn off your fourth layer of skin, but the stains I've got all over my stuff now is light. I've got yellow, orange, AND pink splattered here and there on the white patches, along with grass and dirt from belly-slides (read: tripping over my feet) or snake-crawling. It's not like we're wearing these to weddings or anything, THEY'RE PAINTBALL JERSEYS!
Okay, I'm okay now...
Edd, I get what you're saying about your jersey, but it's like a football player (American or that other kind) complaining about getting stains out of his jersey. I'm not advocating that triple-staining kind of paint that won't come off your hands until you burn off your fourth layer of skin, but the stains I've got all over my stuff now is light. I've got yellow, orange, AND pink splattered here and there on the white patches, along with grass and dirt from belly-slides (read: tripping over my feet) or snake-crawling. It's not like we're wearing these to weddings or anything, THEY'RE PAINTBALL JERSEYS!
Okay, I'm okay now...
Well lets use our noggins...
What company is selling pink?
Not National, their highest grade paint is orange.
Not PMI/EVIL, their highest grade paint is orange as well.
Yes, Severe and Chonic.
It's Chronic that has the staining paint... But guess what, they're a platinum sponsor. So why they are banning the color, I don't know.
I know severe has some pink paint and I have no idea if it stains.
It's possible that TC has some pink paint as well and I don't know if that stains either.
It's pretty easy to hold the paint manufacturers accountable for the staining paint. All the NPPL has to do is strap on a pair and start making them responsible. But unfortunately that might take some time considering one of those paint mfg's is a platinum sponsor. Lovely, more politics. I feel sorry for the companies that make pink paint that is nonstaining.
What company is selling pink?
Not National, their highest grade paint is orange.
Not PMI/EVIL, their highest grade paint is orange as well.
Yes, Severe and Chonic.
It's Chronic that has the staining paint... But guess what, they're a platinum sponsor. So why they are banning the color, I don't know.
I know severe has some pink paint and I have no idea if it stains.
It's possible that TC has some pink paint as well and I don't know if that stains either.
It's pretty easy to hold the paint manufacturers accountable for the staining paint. All the NPPL has to do is strap on a pair and start making them responsible. But unfortunately that might take some time considering one of those paint mfg's is a platinum sponsor. Lovely, more politics. I feel sorry for the companies that make pink paint that is nonstaining.
to make a vibrant bright pink paint it is necesary to use something called Titanium Dioxide.
Titanium Dioxide stains by its very nature. City venues will not allow it. The brighter the paint, the more Titanium Dioxide it contains.
Personally I expect bright Orange paint to be next on the list. Sacrifices have to be made to get into the better venues.
It is a level playing field for manufacturers and teams alike.
Politics, for once, do not come into it.
Arguing about it is majorly gay.
Titanium Dioxide stains by its very nature. City venues will not allow it. The brighter the paint, the more Titanium Dioxide it contains.
Personally I expect bright Orange paint to be next on the list. Sacrifices have to be made to get into the better venues.
It is a level playing field for manufacturers and teams alike.
Politics, for once, do not come into it.
Arguing about it is majorly gay.
At the risk of being "Gay" is TiO2 really neccesary for pink paint? Given that TiO2 is white and could be used as a base for almost colour.
Out of interest, what are the other coloured paints based on?
Though it is simple, staining paints = bad idea I'm pretty sure that staining paint has been against the rules forever though...
Richard
Out of interest, what are the other coloured paints based on?
Though it is simple, staining paints = bad idea I'm pretty sure that staining paint has been against the rules forever though...
Richard
Did you miss NPPL Miami and the paint fiasco there? Seeing that you're very knowledgable about many quiet issues I'd be surpised for you to be in the dark on this one.
I believe the Paint 'ruling' was loose, and it was agreed that a more blanket ruling was needed to protect the venues. The old ruling was that the paint would have to be tested for staining before it was used. This was not taken seriously, and the infrastructure was perhaps not ready to control or police it, which unfortunately became necessary. Hence the change of ruling.
You are right though, I am not particularly well informed about the Miami Paint 'Fiasco'. Don't see what it has to do with politics unless I am missing something. basically no-one was prepared for what it would take to acurately test the paint and make a clear ruling without holding up the event while someone nipped down the laundry-mat and washed the gear to test it out.
My knowledge of paint is sketchy at best and probably 5 years out of date, but the Titanium Dioxide info I posted is accurate to the best of my knowledge. I believe Benzine was also used to make the paint less 'wipable' by one manufacturer too. As Benzine is a known carconogenic this was eventually stopped. The paint is what is left when we have all gone home. It is going to be an issue that gets more and more important at future events. I suppose this new ruling is intended to negate future 'fiasco's',
and no, you didn't sound gay, not much anyway...
You are right though, I am not particularly well informed about the Miami Paint 'Fiasco'. Don't see what it has to do with politics unless I am missing something. basically no-one was prepared for what it would take to acurately test the paint and make a clear ruling without holding up the event while someone nipped down the laundry-mat and washed the gear to test it out.
My knowledge of paint is sketchy at best and probably 5 years out of date, but the Titanium Dioxide info I posted is accurate to the best of my knowledge. I believe Benzine was also used to make the paint less 'wipable' by one manufacturer too. As Benzine is a known carconogenic this was eventually stopped. The paint is what is left when we have all gone home. It is going to be an issue that gets more and more important at future events. I suppose this new ruling is intended to negate future 'fiasco's',
and no, you didn't sound gay, not much anyway...
awwwe, thanks. I guess it's ok to be a little 'happy'.
Maybe fiasco was a bad choice of word, but either way the NPPL went around and found every team they could using pink Ultra Evil and demanded they stop using the paint. They claimed that people we complaining because it stained. To my knowledge, this was the only paint that they made people stop shooting. That was friday. They did paint tests on friday night. The same list of tests that were put forth as the criteria to determine if paint stained or not. Well as it turned out National's paint was the least potent paint followed by the pink Ultra Evil, both of which were found to be non-staining according to the tests they had performed. Severe was the most potent and Chronic 420 was somewhere between the Severe and Evil. Neither Chronic 420 nor Severe passed the non-staining tests. You would think that this would have put an end to the sale of their staining paint. But for whatever reason, the nppl just decided to let all paint go. It isn't surpising though... they would have had to allow national (who wasn't a big sponsor and actually a big sponsor of the other league) and deny Zap (who was a platinum sponsor).
That's the story to the best of my recollection. If I made any mistakes, feel free to correct me.
Maybe I just see it as being very politcal because my team was using the pink Ultra Evil and were one of the first teams they accused of using staining paint. They had no problem being BIG BIG JERKS to us about the paint but when push came to shove they pussed out and didn't stand behind their word.
Maybe fiasco was a bad choice of word, but either way the NPPL went around and found every team they could using pink Ultra Evil and demanded they stop using the paint. They claimed that people we complaining because it stained. To my knowledge, this was the only paint that they made people stop shooting. That was friday. They did paint tests on friday night. The same list of tests that were put forth as the criteria to determine if paint stained or not. Well as it turned out National's paint was the least potent paint followed by the pink Ultra Evil, both of which were found to be non-staining according to the tests they had performed. Severe was the most potent and Chronic 420 was somewhere between the Severe and Evil. Neither Chronic 420 nor Severe passed the non-staining tests. You would think that this would have put an end to the sale of their staining paint. But for whatever reason, the nppl just decided to let all paint go. It isn't surpising though... they would have had to allow national (who wasn't a big sponsor and actually a big sponsor of the other league) and deny Zap (who was a platinum sponsor).
That's the story to the best of my recollection. If I made any mistakes, feel free to correct me.
Maybe I just see it as being very politcal because my team was using the pink Ultra Evil and were one of the first teams they accused of using staining paint. They had no problem being BIG BIG JERKS to us about the paint but when push came to shove they pussed out and didn't stand behind their word.