Noob cocker problem

[superbully]

OK - I suppose as a noob I shouldn't be buying a cocker as my first marker. I knew they were complicated in setting up to fire nice, but I just couldn't resist the deal I saw and cockers are used by top guys anyway, so I thought may as well get a cocker now instead of having lots of "in between" markers.

Anyway, here's my prob-

I air it up and dial the regulator on the front pneumatics so that the thing is firing well. Then I give it another 1/4 turn in to make sure that the thing cycles well at faster trigger pulls (like someone advised me to do) so far so good. cycles nice.

Saturday night I had a game of indoor paintball and it was bursting balls like a b*stard !! On inspection it seemed that the balls were only bursting in the barrel, because there was no paint in the feed/bolt/hopper area.

My theory is that it was the sites paintballs because I tested it again today with my own paintballs and fired around 90 off and no bursts. Maybe I need some different barrels to cope with different sizes of paint when I have to use site paints?

I don't think my barrel was too tight because the guy at the site was showing me how to make my gun safe. As i don't have a safety he pointed the barrel to you floor and made a ball roll out, thus no ball in breach anymore. Could a barrel that is too large also give ball burst probs???? maybe cuz it's rattling up the barrel too much on the balls launch......??

I don't think it was my cocker, think it was the paint. What are your views?

 

[L J]

well, the paint could be to brittle, and the bolt might be smashing the paint. maybe the sledgehammer is putting to much pressure onto the bolt

 

[superbully]

thanks

Ummmm... thanks cocker but I said that I couldn't see any evidence that it was in the area of the bolt/feed/hopper areas.

 

[L J]

yeah, i had the same problem last weekend, i used really brittle WDP paint, and the sledgehammer was making the bolt blast the ball, but it didnt break on the bolt, it broke in the barrel, and i had a freak set

 

[Parksy]

If you have no paint there you could just be getting paint stuck in the barrel, and then having the next ball smash into it and break.

Or you could possibly be short stroking.

I noticed also you said that upon pointing the marker to the floor a ball rolled out??!! Surely your ball should be lightly held in place by the ball detent to stop double feeding which could also be the root of your problem.

As for the paint going nicely through the barrel, you sometimes find that you can put loads of paint from the same batch through the barrel and have no probs, but depending on the quality/batch of paint you can have ones which are larger than those tried which could stick in the barrel, I had this problem with more then one batch of Zap Chronic

Hope that helps.

Dave

 

[L J]

Originally posted by L1f3
I had this problem with more then one batch of Zap Chronic

hehehe, ive heard countless stores about this

 

[superbully]

paint

The paint I have at home was bought from the site that I played at.
They use severe paint and I bought 1000 balls of Nitro duck from severe.
The paint that I played with wasn't Nitro duck, but am pretty sure would of been from severe.
I don't think the ball just rolled out when he pointed the barrel down. I'll have to get him to show me again what he did

 

[Recoil]

Originally posted by cockersrule
it broke in the barrel, and i had a freak set

A known problem with Freak sets.... sometimes if they are slightly out of alignment then it will break in the barrel, make sure everything is in snug and the barrel/front section is screwed in tightly. I havent had a break in my Freak for quite a while but I went thru a real phase of barrel breakages.... now I just ensure its all tight and have had no problems since.

 

[Billy No Mates]

Originally posted by L1f3
I noticed also you said that upon pointing the marker to the floor a ball rolled out??!! Surely your ball should be lightly held in place by the ball detent to stop double feeding which could also be the root of your problem.

Cockers have an anti-double ball, but as the marker opperates with a Closed breach, the ball is pushed past the anit-double ball before firing.
Therefore it is wholely possible for a ball just to roll out of the barrel. Esp. if the barrel is too big.

I would also check to make sure that you are not getting breaks because the marker isnt cycling properly. IE if you plutting balls into the breach, (ie the back block is moving) but the marker isnt firing (ie going bang) every time. because when it Does go bang, the one it fires will smash into any other already in the barrel, and will make a lovely mess, but not on the bolt.

other than that, i would have to say it sounds like shoddy paint.

 

[superbully]

That sounds like it could of been it then. I mean that the block moved and put a ball in but then didn't fire and then the next ball hit the first one.

probably cuz I didn't have the front reg turned in enough as it was only the second day that i had it.

I have adjusted the front reg so that it now fires air out all the time and not just moving the block. I know how to do that properly now!