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Tony Harrison

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The Germans are well known for being thorough at whatever they do.
And given the difficulties of playing paintball in Germany, let alone starting a league or team, we should all take our hats off to these guys, win or lose.
At last, an intelligent response.

Thank you, Jay.
 

Rider

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i think what jonathan is getting at is the way the german paintballers seem, at least from the outside, to be far more organised as a whole community.

look at the way they went about getting international support when the government attempted to ban paintball. the e-petition they set up generated several thousand responses in support.

how many UK ballers would sign a petition in this country to stop a ban? and how many would just moan about it?

main thing i think is that the germans seem far more proactive and involved in the sport than here in the UK, where a lot of us just expect to turn up, play, moan and go home, then moan some more.

as jay says - i think it must at least partly be to do with the need to jump through a lot of legislative hoops to paintball in germany in the first place. i know from doing the mahlwinkle big games the hassles that can ensue.
 

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The Germans are well known for being thorough at whatever they do.
And given the difficulties of playing paintball in Germany, let alone starting a league or team, we should all take our hats off to these guys, win or lose.
Jay, as far as dealing with the political problems the Germans faced when playing paintball and setting up sites etc .... they are a tad unique I woulda thought ... I somehow don't see us facing the same kind of political backlash.

I know some people are gonna quickly jump up and in between 'duurrr's, mention, 'nobody is immune from 'political' problems'.....well of course, this is true but it is the nature of their problems we are talking about here and the consequent experience acquired....

Steve Bull has been tirelessly sorting these 'political' type problems out for years in the background of our sport, problem is, he don't boast about it or advertise the fact ... nah, I don't think we need to look across the channel just yet.

Secondly Jay, setting up new leagues or whatever isn't exactly rocket science here, in fact, it is so commonsensical as to border on the insane as to how anybody could go down the 'stooopid' road ....

I of course, readily concede, we have gone down such a road in the last few years but I would venture, the Fed have enough brains and experience and in most cases, commonsense, to be able to arrange our league system sensibly, effectively undoing the 'stoopid' road bit.

But remember here, it was free enterprise that created our problems, the ethos of a federation has different criterion of operation as you know ... and this is why we (Fed) can reorganize with authority and justification.

And Jonathan??
What are you saying?
 

Buddha 3

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Yeah, but no, but yeah....

All I was saying is that Germans were doing good. Not that they should be used as some sort of roadmap. Not at all.
To me, looking at how other people do and did things, particularly those who are succesful, and then learning from that is so obvious, it doesn't need stating. Which, as you explain, you feel the same way about.
You read a little more into my post than I intended, as did Jonathan. I didn't "pick sides" in this discussion, I just gave the Krauts some credits. That was all.
 

Robbo

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Yeah, but no, but yeah....

All I was saying is that Germans were doing good. Not that they should be used as some sort of roadmap. Not at all.
To me, looking at how other people do and did things, particularly those who are succesful, and then learning from that is so obvious, it doesn't need stating. Which, as you explain, you feel the same way about.
You read a little more into my post than I intended, as did Jonathan. I didn't "pick sides" in this discussion, I just gave the Krauts some credits. That was all.
Oh, I got no problem in giving them credit Jay, I think they dealt with the political situation with true 'ulrichian' efficiency.

I also think their league structure was a lot better than we ended up with, which in itself, certainly deserves credit considering how easy it was to slide into Anglican disarray.

All in all mate, I think the page we both inhabit, is one and the same.

No change there then ..... :)