nitro duck

[Nicola–Phoenix]

How wrong all of you people are, phoenix paintball sell the whole line of nitro duck products, now in stock. Call Andy at phoenix for prices 01543 451454 or drop into our new shop, 5 minutes from the M6 J11.

 

[Mark]

Ok perhaps Jaff does want just Nitro Duck Reg...unlikely as it is advertised as the whole thing, Bottle and Reg that their adverts are for, and yes if the bottle threads are the same then of course you can put a Nitro Duck Reg on an HSE bottle (never said you couldn't) What I was saying (though I did think it was clear) is that the use of a Nitro Duck complete system in the UK is illegal due to the bottle used and branded by themselves (Nitro Duck) is a DOT bottle. All works out the same as speed gun scanners legal to sell, legal to own but use the product and you are breaking the law (bottle only not the reg). Smart Parts (not picking on you guys) sell HSE and DOT bottles but then their market is not just mainland UK so they have reason to sell both, other dealers have similar markets but it is buyer beware, go ahead buy a DOT bottle and try and get it filled, tested or use at a tourny or site in this country. Think on this too PMI do a product called "Pure Energy" a bottle and reg that is 5000psi but it is a DOT bottle only.

 

[jaff]

nice one guys thanks 4 all your help cu round
lloyd
team vortex

 

[Fleisher]

Originally posted by Mark
Good plugs for all your various sponsors guys but HSE tested tanks are the only ones legal for use on the mainland UK, Nitro Duck only make DOT tested bottles. This was all covered in previous threads DOT v HSE and all the ways in which their use of either system of testing is legal or not. Only one maker (supplier really) make a dual tested tank and that is WDP. Smart Parts Europe will sell you either type of tank, to be honest I don't know about London Paintball supplies as to if they do both types. But either way keep it legal. The main reason shops will sell DOT over here is cos it is legal to sell them , legal to own....but illegal to use (use means fill btw not just limited to fixing to your marker)

Getting a little fed up with this rant...cos it keeps coming up, so perhaps Bully or some one from the UKPSF committee can post on this thread just so at the very least it doesn't look like I'm making this up.

NOT a plug for a sponsor in my case,I don`t think that much of LPS as it is ,but the guy asked a question ,I gave an answer .Personally if I wanted a cheap reg/tank setup I`d buy a Melee from AGD ,dearer than a nitro duck...but legal.,and lets face it half the gear in the UK is probably technically illegal,thats not an excuse because I agree with what you`re saying but surely its a matter for the industry to resolve,if its not on sale it won`t get bought,if its a choice between cheap and illegal or dear and legal the majority of people will choose the former.Let me know you`re views .

 

[Mark]

I agree that if it is on sale people will buy it...bloody sharp practice when you consider the wider implications for the future of this sport within the UK. Example, there was a so called "HI FI" dealer in the south who would lie something rotten to sell his gear...homemade most of the time totally lethal inside...got proscecuted loads of times but he kept in buisness cos he was cheap it was lucky no one was eletrocuted cos he used FM arial wire for internal mains connectionsand used a marker pen to obscure the transistors on his amplifiers so he could say they were 100, 200 or whatever wattage he liked the number of blown speakers and fried boards was unreal. I know you just answered the question but and there is a but, knowing something isn't right ie legal or not should colour the advice given(you covered yourself by saying similar). If in doubt say so, I have done just that in many previous posts. I also agree that the industry should get their house in order but at the end of the day they all have morgages etc to pay so look what happens. You do see adverts for some products (not paintball) that state only for sale to non-uk residents so until that happens..... and as long as people know where they stand regarding the laws they can keep safe and legal. WDP knew this fact when they got their tanks made to include both HSE and DOT testing cos that way they will never be out of stock regarding any country cos their tank is legal in both markets, I did hear a rumour that Smart Parts were going to be doing a dual tested tank but as yet I haven't seen any (doesn't mean they won't be coming though). It is unfortuante that the first post went in this forum it did cos it isn't really a subject for Annoucements and Queries...(although it was a question) Techroom really but the moderator has left it here.

 

[Fleisher]

Cheers Mark ...catch ya later.

 

[Tony@maxem]

We sell Nitro Duck equipment ..But only with HSE Tanks/bottles on them......DOT are only and can be used in this country if you come from the States and bring Bottle with you ...otherwise HSE only.......

Also Pheonix Paintball (Cannock) sell and are the Main Dealers in the UK...
Tony

 

[Mark]

Well done Tony, good move by a paintball store,
as you know from previous threads you and I have both participated in Nitro Duck came up and the result was that the complete systems are DOT bottles but once again good move on your part, the reviews I have read on Nitro Duck have been good but well cos of the previous problems...not on my list of things to buy. BTW looked at your new site...no prices for the air stuff, is it POA? Also are all HSE tanks and DOT for that matter all the same thread internally I know they are made in the states but they (USA) use a different threading to us in most all other things so was wondering if that applies in the case of the tanks? Never gone down that route cos you tend to buy systems complete, but I have a couple of regs to match up with bottles.

 

[jaff]

nice 1 tony thanks 4 all ur help
good luck in germany
lloyd
team vortex

 

[Tony@maxem]

JAFF & Mark

Jaff thanks for that see you when I get Back ......

Mark Re: tank threads ..No is the answer Nitro Duck Regs are different threads as is AA ones etc...... something to do with them making you buy only there Products I think ? any way Pheonix have found a system to fit Nitro Duck Regs and a adaptor etc so before anyone goes out and buys Regs only check they fit your tanks... Otherwise buy complete from Pheonix or us.....and has Fleisher said and pointed out Nitro Duck only at present do DOT tanks.

Best regards
Tony
ps Mark re Nitro system prices on web site they will be up soon mate..........as we have been waiting for certain parts to be priced etc.......