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JoseDominguez

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I've been checking on the legal stuff.........still need to verify with hotpoint though.

As for the corrosion thing.....if it produced some nitric oxide, wouldn't that be a good thing, as it would contribute to the oxide film.
 

F3Z

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dont mean to be picky but surely if it was compressed heliem it would actually weigh just as much as the air around it, therefore getting rid of the whole floating affect.

:p

ok i do mean to be picky, but it would be very kool!! Cept id end up floating the whole time !!
 

JoseDominguez

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I always wondered if you could fill a parcel with helium to cut down on shipping costs. Gave myself a headache and stopped though.
Helium would be fun, crap compression though, and expensive.
Imagine your voice after you'd put down a long string.......... it would sound like the smurfs were playing. Or Eminem.
Mustard gas!!!!!!!............ that would make for a fast paced game, you could only fire one string before you had to get out of your bunker.
Sodium Pentathol........... three shots then "marshal I've wiped, I'm playing on", "I've slept with the captains wife".
 

Hotpoint

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Originally posted by Liz
Hotpoint - if you see this can you clarify the legal situation as it stands these days?
Nitrogen is still prohibited in the UK as a propellant. The reason for the restrictions on its use (which go beyond Paintball) is apparently due to the fact that in high-concentrations it can theoretically get into your bloodstream and cause a similar effect to Decompression Sickness (aka the "Bends")
 

Jon S

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I read on AO that you cannot use helium, because the molecules are so small it leaks past o-rings! Also, it's apparently so light (as in not dense) that it can't push the paintball very well anyway.

Team Chipmunks playing Team Smurf :)
 

DARREN

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Nitrogen

Hotpoint nice to see someone else knows the law Nitrogen (99.9% pure is and always has been illegal to use as a propellant but as far as being Corrosive it is actually the exact opposite as it is an inert gas and is used widely in the food industry it is also used as a storage gas for all pressurised cylinders to stop corrosion .Air on the other hand contains 70 ish % Nitrogen 21% oxygen with a mixture of other nasty chemicals and water vapour which in its self makes it corrosive .If you really want all the technical data and laws you could E-mail H-pac as they are always very helpfull and will give you all the information you need.

hope this helps
Darren.
 

JoseDominguez

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Pure Nitrogen could in theory cause problems with titanium........ 'cos of the lack of oxygen (titanium is in fact really, really reactive.... so reactive it forms a layer of protective titanium oxide before water etc... gets to it) . Don't think it would be a problem in a barrel though as it's hardly constantly saturated.
Nitrogen is dangerous to humans for the same reason....a leak of pure nitro will displace the oxygen, pure nitro..no oxygen (Co2 is pretty dangerous too...same reason) but a tank of nitro will displace a helluva lot more air than Co2, (more of it in there). Never thought about the bends though......... mebbe it's to do with nitrogen in high pressure hosing? you could probably get a syringe effect.
Hotpoint, have you got any info on the danger of the "bends" from compressed nitro? I thought you needed to be breathing it whilst under increased pressure for too much to dissolve in the blood. It's got me wondering, I'd like to read up.

We all need to respect our gas bottles a bit more......... even a leaky CO2 bottle in a confined space (tent, sleeping in your car) could mean you miss more than the tournament.