More controversy at Toulouse

[Dougal]

Can ayone shed any light on what happened in the Russian Legion's game against Dynasty in the Finals (They had 2 markers withheld from the players and so only played with 5.)

And, I understand that there was some controversy at the end of the Nexus v Mayhem Tigers game involving Robbo. Did anyone see what happened here?

Dougal

 

[gaff]

Russian legion had two hot guns!

they run their guns right on the very limit all the time, and are well known for them tipping slightly over

dont know about the second item

also Strange had a bouncy trigger and were made to play with 6!!

 

[L J]

didnt scalp play wth 2 guns for a game???? they got 2 guns with over 311 so they got 1-4-1'd so they lost 4 players, and then one gun was over 300 but under 311 so they lost that gun, so 3 players and 2 guns...is that true???

 

[cjansen]

Bad luck more than anything...

Legion chrono'd all guns at the chrono station before going onto the field, and nobody was hot. Then after waiting about 10 minutes to play, two did come up hot. When they came off, Peter from RL told me that his was showing variations of up to 25 fps on the hand chrono, but was all good in the chrono station.

 

[Robbo]

Originally posted by Dougal
Can ayone shed any light on what happened in the Russian Legion's game against Dynasty in the Finals (They had 2 markers withheld from the players and so only played with 5.)

And, I understand that there was some controversy at the end of the Nexus v Mayhem Tigers game involving Robbo. Did anyone see what happened here?

Dougal

Contoversy in the Tigers v Nexus game ?????

It was a 100 % fair game played by both sides that went down to the wire; at the end of it, I shouted something to my players that wasn't disrespectful in any way but was somewhat inappropriate at the time.
Basically, my timing could have been better !
I duly apologised to the Tigers within three mins of me saying it and all was kool between us all within five mins.

Sorry to disappoint you Dougal but I'm afraid it was no more than that.

As for the Legion, I spoke to Sergei afterwards and he told me, the guns just went over the 300 fps limit.
This was their first shot by the way, all subsequent shots went under the 300 mark.
Sergei had all his guns chronoed going onto the field and thought the chrono used just before the start of the game was not reading right so he asked for the other chrono to be used again and this had all guns reading under.
But apparently the rules state, the first shots must count regardless of whether chronos are calibrated and synched.

Hmmmm, seems unfair to me you sentence that team to immediate loss (against Dynasty and so in one fell swoop rob them of any chance of winning) for such a thing.
In this instance, where such a severe penalty is to be imposed, you need to cross check chronos, just in case.

I don't agree with this rule anyway, you could have one shot going over 1 fps over and Bam, you lose yer gun and consequently lose the game, I think we need to be able to do an on field adjustment here instead in such a case.
The details of which could be worked out and presented by the EPA to the Millennium board...Go Pipes, Go Goose, Go Mimi

 

[sykesg]

Tigers Nexus

no controversy just bad luck as Alan's hopper went down while on a killing spree, everything is cool.

What I didn't like is the fact that in Dynasty vs Legion when the marshals called guns down for a chrono check - after hanging around in blazing heat - Dynasty to a man fired their markers before laying them down. I think Legion should of also been allowed to do as Dynasty did, as their two hot guns were on the first ball over and not repeated. Difficult call for the marshal to make but sadly one that cost them the game.

When these boys gonna win??????

 

[Buddha 3]

Tigers Nexus

Originally posted by sykesg
When these boys gonna win??????

Sadly it seems that won't happen until they stop playing nice...
I don't mean they should start cheating, but a good example is what you say above, about tapping off a shot when "guns down" is called...

Sad really, when you think about it.

 

[sykesg]

could be true

I hope not, I hope all that's needed is stronger judging. If you read the rule on first shot counts (which I disagree with) Russian Legion should of gone onto the field with 5 guns and Dynasty with 0 guns for firing before being chronoed!

But who's gonna put that stunt in the finals, on the last game of three, infront of one of the biggest crouds and in one of the best tourneys of the year!!

Best thing would of been to chrono Legion ignoring the first shot and then they would of gone onto the field with 7 guns and had their first millennium win.

 

[Joern Windler]

Originally posted by cockersrule
didnt scalp play wth 2 guns for a game???? they got 2 guns with over 311 so they got 1-4-1'd so they lost 4 players, and then one gun was over 300 but under 311 so they lost that gun, so 3 players and 2 guns...is that true???

Hmm .. there was Spirit of Scalp, who had some hotguns, got some 141 and then started bitching so they lost another player. They actually started with 2 guns on the field.
Afterwards they complained about the handheld chronos and were "little" angry about the marshals and of course the ultimates as well.
Anyway next game they had a marker shooting at 350 and last game they had one at 370.
Now as far as I have been told they are writing a official complaint about the evil marshals. (and want a new sp reg, cause one of the marshals should have wrecked it)


evil-joern

 

[Joern Windler]

could be true

Originally posted by sykesg
If you read the rule on first shot counts (which I disagree with) [..]

..go and tell somebody who lost his eye because of the *first* shot.

Over the limit is over the limit. Thats the way it is. I agree on that one, that players which shoot after "guns down" should be eliminated as well. I will work on that one.


joern.