Sorry to double post here, but I am assuming the level 10 will come out in the states when the extreme comes out? Some time in August?
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I'm hi-jacking this thread, only briefly I hope, but what is the "Level 10 modd"? I keep hearing about it, and its the reason that "We are going to see a lot more mags about".
Please enlighten me
Richard
I'm hi-jacking this thread, only briefly I hope, but what is the "Level 10 modd"? I keep hearing about it, and its the reason that "We are going to see a lot more mags about".
Please enlighten me
Richard
OK, in turn
Yes, Air Gun Designs will C & C it for you but they will charge for that and re-annoisation. You can design your own milling (ask Manike on these boards) but I leave it to AGD or I wouldn't forgive myself if I messed it up.
Yes, level 10 will be in the USA soon.
Level 10 is a retro fit (all AGD markers) mod that will allow a standard E-Mag without ACE (Anti Chop Eye) to shoot full auto (20 bps) with no chops & no Barrel breaks. You can drop a ball halfway into the breech to purposely chop it and the bolt will push it out of the way, without any damage to the ball. It also makes the marker kinder on paint than a Cocker.
It is a whole new bolt, & additional parts that go inside the P/Tube, behind the P/Tube tip.
Also watch out for dynamic sensing so no more need to set the Anti Chop Eye and blade trigger.
Yes, Air Gun Designs will C & C it for you but they will charge for that and re-annoisation. You can design your own milling (ask Manike on these boards) but I leave it to AGD or I wouldn't forgive myself if I messed it up.
Yes, level 10 will be in the USA soon.
Level 10 is a retro fit (all AGD markers) mod that will allow a standard E-Mag without ACE (Anti Chop Eye) to shoot full auto (20 bps) with no chops & no Barrel breaks. You can drop a ball halfway into the breech to purposely chop it and the bolt will push it out of the way, without any damage to the ball. It also makes the marker kinder on paint than a Cocker.
It is a whole new bolt, & additional parts that go inside the P/Tube, behind the P/Tube tip.
Also watch out for dynamic sensing so no more need to set the Anti Chop Eye and blade trigger.
OK, in turn
http://www.automags.org/
The vids are impressive!
Cheers,
Paul
Check here for level 10 info!
http://www.automags.org/
The vids are impressive!
Cheers,
Paul
OK, in turn
. I actually do the milling designs and CNC code generation for AGDE for the C&C extreme. And thus have also done a very special one for myself (the manik-e-mag).
I guess if you have the skills you could design it and get it milled elsewhere but they will not release the CAD file for the extreme body. You could buy an extreme though and reverse engineer the measurements to mill your own safely. If you want your own one off CNC design done via me and AGDE then you need to have more money than sense (it is being done for a couple of people )
The extreme C&C will be released in the USA at the IAO. I think level 10 kits for mags are pretty much released there now.
Rumour has it the return of a batch from the annodisers is iminent... who ordered red? Sounds gorgeous...
I have a black to silver fade coming (to match my hair) and can't wait!
manike
Erm just to clear up a few points. YOU can't do your own milling design and then get AGDE to cut it, but like any piece of aluminium or gun body you can have into it yourself if you want to
. I actually do the milling designs and CNC code generation for AGDE for the C&C extreme. And thus have also done a very special one for myself (the manik-e-mag).I guess if you have the skills you could design it and get it milled elsewhere but they will not release the CAD file for the extreme body. You could buy an extreme though and reverse engineer the measurements to mill your own safely. If you want your own one off CNC design done via me and AGDE then you need to have more money than sense
(it is being done for a couple of people )The extreme C&C will be released in the USA at the IAO. I think level 10 kits for mags are pretty much released there now.
Rumour has it the return of a batch from the annodisers is iminent... who ordered red? Sounds gorgeous...
I have a black to silver fade coming (to match my hair) and can't wait!
manike
So is this C&C E-mag lighter than a Fly IR3? I read where people said Angel, LCD and Fly but now one ever said IR3 Fly. Simon I want some sneak preview pics of your One off marker.
I don't know what the weight of an IR3 fly is?
I've given a sneak preview of mine before... but here it is again...
No pictures to release of the machined body until it's all done and finished including battery pack and modules but I will say it's stunning, no tooling cusps anywhere.
manike
I've given a sneak preview of mine before... but here it is again...
No pictures to release of the machined body until it's all done and finished including battery pack and modules
but I will say it's stunning, no tooling cusps anywhere. manike
Manike
I thought you had produced your own design for C & C? Or did I misunstand?
I'm just getting the AGDE special C & C (i.e. same as every other new C & C).
I thought you had produced your own design for C & C? Or did I misunstand?
I'm just getting the AGDE special C & C (i.e. same as every other new C & C).
You are right... kinda...
Silverjay, sorry for the confusion. The terms can be a bit misleading. C&C gets used to mean many things, in the case of WDP and AGDE it means their brand of machined custom guns which will be available as factory guns.
I am getting a C&C extreme in black to silver fade which is just like the one you are getting. I am also getting a custom gun which is also milled etc. but not referred to as a C&C to avoid confusion (didn't work huh? I haven't picked a colour for that one yet.)
I produced the design for the C&C milling which everyone can buy.
I also produced the design for a CNC milled gun which is for me only (the manik-e-mag).
Since I am a greedy git I will be having a C&C until my manik-e-mag is finished. (Haven't had time to finish it yet so it will be a while I expect).
At the moment the term 'C&C extreme' is used to refer solely to the one you are getting, and I guess will be updated with model years/new names etc. as new designs become available.
Did that help or just make things worse?
I believe the SFL extreme is the same weightish as the LCD fly. The C&C extreme is 2.25 oz lighter than the SFL. The manik-e-mag is at least 2 oz lighter than the C&C (it's that much lighter after just machining the body and I am yet to get stuck into the battery pack and modules).
manike
Silverjay, sorry for the confusion. The terms can be a bit misleading. C&C gets used to mean many things, in the case of WDP and AGDE it means their brand of machined custom guns which will be available as factory guns.
I am getting a C&C extreme in black to silver fade which is just like the one you are getting. I am also getting a custom gun which is also milled etc. but not referred to as a C&C to avoid confusion (didn't work huh?
I haven't picked a colour for that one yet.) I produced the design for the C&C milling which everyone can buy.
I also produced the design for a CNC milled gun which is for me only (the manik-e-mag).
Since I am a greedy git I will be having a C&C until my manik-e-mag is finished. (Haven't had time to finish it yet so it will be a while I expect).
At the moment the term 'C&C extreme' is used to refer solely to the one you are getting, and I guess will be updated with model years/new names etc. as new designs become available.
Did that help or just make things worse?
I believe the SFL extreme is the same weightish as the LCD fly. The C&C extreme is 2.25 oz lighter than the SFL. The manik-e-mag is at least 2 oz lighter than the C&C (it's that much lighter after just machining the body and I am yet to get stuck into the battery pack and modules).
manike