Lowering of BPS limits - what say you?
- Thread starter Beaker
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Well when my Ego is set to Semi then I can honestly only get 15bps say 40-50% of the time anyway.
As I am a forward a few Bps really makes little difference to me. I can bunker someone with one shot or with 20 they still end up walking. The only really difference to the actual game will mean more agressive formations up front and less players in the back, I think back players will really only be the ones that notice a difference in their game by a drop of 3 bps.
The point about there not being a 'true semi' is , I think' untrue. Precision PCB's would easily be able to regulate a constant 15, 10 or whatever amount of bps. It would just have to be set properly and perfectly for the specific gun in question. There will always be a place for computer geeks and nerds to reprograme boards to cheat and add shots and breakout modes e.t.c. thus making a drop in a few bps ridiculously hard to police as is the current limit.
At the place where I play there are signs every where saying 'semi only, absolutely no ramping!' but it still dosn't stop people from doing it.
In a seven man game there is so much paint in the air that it makes it almost impossible for the refs and marshalls to police.
As for the down side for the big commercial businesses a drop in a few Bps, whilst adding up over time, will not cost them a huge amount of capital. Everytime we buy a case of paint we are being ripped off. The same goes for almost every single piece of paintball gear; it is all over priced!
The price of paint makes it hard for most players to afford 15bps constantly for 2 and a half hours every week anyway.
Personally rather than making guns better and faster e.t.c. more money should be spent making this sport more accessible, cheaper and more well known to the general public.
James
As I am a forward a few Bps really makes little difference to me. I can bunker someone with one shot or with 20 they still end up walking. The only really difference to the actual game will mean more agressive formations up front and less players in the back, I think back players will really only be the ones that notice a difference in their game by a drop of 3 bps.
The point about there not being a 'true semi' is , I think' untrue. Precision PCB's would easily be able to regulate a constant 15, 10 or whatever amount of bps. It would just have to be set properly and perfectly for the specific gun in question. There will always be a place for computer geeks and nerds to reprograme boards to cheat and add shots and breakout modes e.t.c. thus making a drop in a few bps ridiculously hard to police as is the current limit.
At the place where I play there are signs every where saying 'semi only, absolutely no ramping!' but it still dosn't stop people from doing it.
In a seven man game there is so much paint in the air that it makes it almost impossible for the refs and marshalls to police.
As for the down side for the big commercial businesses a drop in a few Bps, whilst adding up over time, will not cost them a huge amount of capital. Everytime we buy a case of paint we are being ripped off. The same goes for almost every single piece of paintball gear; it is all over priced!
The price of paint makes it hard for most players to afford 15bps constantly for 2 and a half hours every week anyway.
Personally rather than making guns better and faster e.t.c. more money should be spent making this sport more accessible, cheaper and more well known to the general public.
James
I think if you cant do it natrualy why have an assisted mode? cap'd at 15 with no ramp IMO. but you get those who cheat etc so i uderstand why. i prefer low bps and more pimp moves 
as for people cheating, the audiable difference between 12 -13bps and 15+ is very noticeable imho
This cap is a PSP initiative. The two ROF numbers being discussed are 13 and/or 11 bps. In my opinion, it is a good thing all around. Practice, local, and national tournaments become cheaper for those who actually pay to play them. Movement and team coordination will become more important, as will *gasp* accuracy and the ability to actually aim and shoot your gun, rather than point,shoot,reload, repeat. Less experienced and, by nature, more timid tournament players will find it that much easier to play with a more moderate standard. The field will also be safer to play for walk-ons as ramping guns find their way onto the rec field all too often. A good thing, and precicted some time ago. See Paul, I told you it would come to this...
So if we combine this with Robbo's post in the Commanders Cup thread, do a bit of reading between the lines - what do we get?
Major change.
But it begs the question - if the NPPL do move to a BSP cap, and a potential change of format (to match something similar to Millennium) - then what is their differential to the PSP?
Not a whole lot - apart from on the marketing front.
That said if NPPL do make a move like that (assumption on my part) then it makes any intergration discussions for the following season much simpler ... IMO anyway
As for ramping - I don't have a real opinion. Ramping is still illegal in NZ and Australia (we're working on it), but instinctively a lower BPS makes sense in terms of movement, consumption and spectator enjoyment.
As usual you are mistaken.
It is not purely a PSP initiative and I am constrained from telling you what the actual number is. The only elements of your argument that do follow is that it will be easier for "timid tournament players" to play and it may limit the ubiquity of ramping guns on local fields--eventually. Is the national level event series where we want to encourage timid tournament players? Not in my universe but then I don't believe in running the lower divisions on the national stage either so there you go. If regional or local leagues want to regulate rate of fire for their rookies and novices I say fine but I think you will find the players themselves objecting most of the time. Unfortunately, regarding ramping, etc. Pandora's Box is already open and if the pro leagues can't always adequately control rate of fire what are local fields gonna do? It's easy to say ban such guns but every time they do they are sending customers somewhere else and most field operations have an aversion to doing that.The notion this move will save money is counting pennies while ignoring dollars. If the rationale is to save money ROF is a poor choice. As for the notion it will open up the game again it's just bad logic as is the notion you're gonna make accuracy important again. It's never been unimportant. At 15 bps which ball arrives first? It's the first one of course and if that one is aimed poorly guess where the next 10-14 end up? Not on target is where. And apparently I've somehow missed the fact that in the 15 bps era nobody ever moved. Except of course for the breakouts. Man, where have I been while all these teams, games and events have had thousands of players simply sitting in their bunkers hosing 15 bps.
If anybody really wanted to save money on practice they'd stop releasing the field layouts in advance.
PS--end of the day I don't really care about ROF except as a tool to try and keep the game on something of a level playing field. I do think it's silly to potentially treat the pro divisions just like D3 however.
PPS--oh, and what happens when the new rules come into effect to all the players and teams and guns with PSP mode boards? I can hear the cheers of the happy customers already.
i reckon the essence of p'ball is the movement. every1, even the big fat dudes at the back love bustin a huge move and takin out the bad guys. so lower bps is all good for us, the players.
as for audience value, surely the same must apply? watchin 10-14 guys hiding behind jumpin castles nd try and shot each other cant b all that enjoyable? can it?
as for audience value, surely the same must apply? watchin 10-14 guys hiding behind jumpin castles nd try and shot each other cant b all that enjoyable? can it?