since it seems it was me who has started this, i feel id better try and say something redeeming... and i dont want this forum to turn out like pbnation
(shudders).
yes spiders are good starter guns, lets face it, very few of us started out with
g7s and egos, personally i started out with a tippy and still love it. however, they arnt great guns in my opinion, and when you can pick up a cocker with an
e2 for roughly £150 (ok maby slightly more) then i dont really see the point of buying one.
my 10c worth anyway