I'm a witness of the Enemy game!

[TOPOR]

I saw the game on the Draxxus field between Enemy Fury and Enemy Chaos. And so did some of my m8ts from Shockwave...

Nobody in the spectators yelled loud that the game was fixed, nobody reacted neither the judges. Judges has signed the score sheet. Then because the score seems weird, an accusation is done and sanctions have been taken against both teams...

The game was really fast and aggressive, a total mess during 1 minute, one guy was left on the doritoes line up (enemy 2) side while his opponent was left in the snake (enemy 1)...

The player from the doritoes (2) runned slowly to do a flag grab and he stood there counting the deadbox but obviously he counted wrong. During this laps of time the other enemy player in the snake (1) is having gun problems so he swab it, dry fire before coming out of the snake, there is nobody left so he goes to grab the flag. They both come back walking from each side of the X without noticing each other...

As I'm french I understand what one of the player(snake player 1) say: "Hey, where were you all ?"he says to his m8ts in the dead box waving proudly the flag...

At that moment, the dead players were jumping like crazy in the dead zone and as they could not stand it and they could see the other player from enemy 2 about to hang their flag, one of them dare to speak between his teeth : " you'd f...g better watch the field instead !"... then it's game over, cause Enemy 2 had hanged the flag before...

Then they argued between them like crazy, I could hear them and this was not some kind of actor studio shiznit... it was real anger and dispointment...

I DON'T BELIEVE THIS GAME WAS FIXED.

JUDGES DIDN'T REACTED EITHER

SPECTATORS DIDN'T REACTED EITHER....

A lot of people give their opinions according to the score results without having seen the game. This drives me mad.

Someone wrote, if this was true it was ain't fix, they should have yelled louder.

Example, If you go with another wife when you are married and one day your wife ask you your time table or some other kind of question cause she got an anonymous phone call... I'm sure the man will have plenty of fake explanations, fake time table, friends backing up his lies...

A friend of mine one day went back home, his wife was there with an anonymous letter accusing him of doing things with another women. It wasn' true at all. His wife start to yell at him... he stayed quiet, wordless... looking as if he was guilty like hell!

What I mean is that both Enemy teams were so shocked by the accusation and they felt it was so unfair they didn't even try to discuss in english of what happened... Where are the f...g evidence guys?

Nowhere... so they all walked back home without arguing cause there was nothing to argue... Scoresheet was signed then it wasn not valid anymore.... WTF ?

 

[Robbo]

If this account is true....

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
... I would have to say the Enemy ban is WRONG !

Nick

Bloody hell Nick, u love going out on a limb don't ya mate ?

Oh and let me take a wild stab in the dark here Nick, I suppose, IF the account WASN'T true then the Enemy ban is right ???

<~~~~switch off sarcasm

 

[Red_Merkin]

i saw the end of the game, from the back of the stands. After that we stood about and discussed how one would go about getting maximum points by fixing a game, as it was quite clear that this was more than a coincedence.

 

[Mark Toye-Nexus]

Now not meaning to flame anything

But I heard that the judges were at a loss at how to score the game and were going to refer to the rule books.

To save them time the Enemy captain told them what the score would be.

A captain well versed in the scoring system??

Certainly - but why so well versed that he knows that exact score immediately after a game like that - as though it had been calculated before??

Now I just care that justice is done. We weren't there so it made no difference to us but fixing games is not on at all.

I know what it looks like to me. And I dont believe in coincidences when there is so much to gain.

 

[bruce]

i know this may be a bit of a side issue, but dont the rules state that in divisions with 2 teams from the same team (does that make sense ), that the 2 teams should play each other in the first round to stop this kind of thing rearing it ugly head??

So is it the teams fault for doing what is best for there team, or down to the organisers for not spotting this and applying there own rules so that the situration cannot arise in the first place.


bruce

 

[manike]

I watched it also...

If it was fixed it was the most beautifully choreographed set of play I have ever seen. They should consider working for the Royal Ballet.

The game did run with a huge set of coincidences in the last 30 seconds of play (namely a player being missed in the snake as he was fixing his gun and then how he and the other opposite live player failed to see each other) which amazed me and all the other people watching it. But it didn't look obviously fixed when watching without the knowledge it was the same team playing itself.

The guy with the gun problem walked back looking at his gun screen the whole way and pulling the trigger trying to get it to work. He wasn't paying attention to the field. He had been trying to get his gun working in the snake for several minutes before continueing up the field and going for the flag.

The opposition player came back along the other side of the field looking away from the other live player and at the dead box. Not once did they look at each other. And they crossed at the centre of the field where the big 'X' blocks a lot of the view anyway, whith a person on each tape.

The flag was hung while the other guy was only 5 metres from his own flag base, to do that without ever looking at the opposition player is amazing.

His team looked pissed when the other flag was hung as he was just strolling back.

My first reaction was that it wasn't fixed and that it was one of those amazing co-incidental games.

BUT as soon as the game was over and I showed my suprise, one of the judges implied it was fixed because it was the same team.

And other people have given me reasons and points which make me wonder. Inlcuding the fact the team captains accepted the punishment and didn't argue that the game was fixed.

Someone who knows players on the team also said they didn't deny it when he questioned them (and before they realised they would be banned for a year). And all the judges were in the opinion that it was fixed. They also apparently have been known to do something similar before, and yes I also heard the point that they knew what the score should have been, but have no independent confirmation of that being true.

A very tough decision was made. By people that pulled together all the facts and information from many, MANY people. That's not an easy job to do.

On a side note and points fixing, should a team be able to deliberately run the clock out of time after having shot out all the opposition and gaining the flag with plenty of time left to hang it?

It doesn't appear to be directly against the rules. But I don't think it should be allowed.

 

[Beaker]

I watched it also...

Originally posted by manike
On a side note and points fixing, should a team be able to deliberately run the clock out of time after having shot out all the opposition and gaining the flag with plenty of time left to hang it?

It doesn't appear to be directly against the rules. But I don't think it should be allowed.

There was a rule about "timely" delivery of the flag after all oppo's shot out. I believe it was added after Joy "fixed" a game like that to get a easier draw into finals at a Mill as they shot everyone then did squat all.

 

[sjt19]

But if the board decides to ban Enemy, then surely they should ban the Ton Tons, as everyone on the side of the field knew the game was fixed!

 

[EGi]

Cyclone is the team who marshalled the enemy game and as we told Moose our opinion is that the game WAS fixed but we CANNOT proove it. That is why the ultimate on the field signed the sheet and did not contact anyone about the issue. In my opinion there is no doubt that the game was fixed. The other flag carrier (from the "losing" team) even turned his head to check that the other team gets to hang the flag first...but still, I don't see any way of prooving it and banning Enemy for the year is in my opinion wrong.


--EGi

 

[sjt19]

dude, i thought that you guys were the best judges at the event. We (Shockwave Am) played your field 4 times, and didnt see one bad call, or wrong decision. Respect!

Sam

p.s was it you that marshalled the finals?