How to: fix UK tournament ball

[Tony Harrison]

Well, PSP pro division works out around £1726 per event, cheaper if you pay up front. TBH, I think most UK teams would get their asses handed to them if they played pro immediately.

Race to 2 cost just over £600 to enter, with a discount if you pay for a full season up front. Only runs on a Sat & Sun as well, so not a huge amount of time needed off work.

And Twizz - you keep going back because there is nothing else like it, isn't there?

 

[Twizz ECI]

Well, PSP pro division works out around £1726 per event, cheaper if you pay up front. TBH, I think most UK teams would get their asses handed to them if they played pro immediately.

Race to 2 cost just over £600 to enter, with a discount if you pay for a full season up front. Only runs on a Sat & Sun as well, so not a huge amount of time needed off work.

And Twizz - you keep going back because there is nothing else like it, isn't there?

Not quite sure on the exchange rate but I think its a bit more than that for entry, $2600 for div 3 x-Ball

my boys work there socks off and dont go out drinking with there mates to keep playing paintball, so I think they couldn't handle playing in the states for 2 seasons,

But I stay with they guys as I admire what they do just to give there all to play paintball for the Tigers, we are in the trench's week in week out, I repect my players for what they do

And your right I do go back and play the PSP world cup cos, (like you say) there is nothing like it!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tony Harrison]

Here you go:-

http://pspevents.com/information/entry-fees/

You are quite right, Twizz - your guys sacrifice a lot to play.

 

[Rat]

But..ask robbo how much money was injected to get that team to the states reguarly! Im sure he Will say all the training required can be done on home.soil too!!

If you go over there you would still only play at a level you feel you can be conpetitive at...therefire would it really improve your game!?

The training achieved over here will only get you to a certain level, if you want to get to a higher "pro" level then you need to be where the pro teams are, which in this case is mainly the USA. however I suppose if you got lucky (and I mean lucky) you could go a train with the Legion in Russia!!

to answer your question, you can improve your game over here but not to the point at which you'd be able to play the likes of Dynasty for example!

Not a viable Option I know but for those who really want to make serious headway in the sport, it's something they may have to consider. case in point JNR brown of XSV!

 

[Robbo]

I don't think you can go to the States and compete, what you can do is go over and enjoy playing and just to put this into some form of perspective; our top team just could not compete in the US pro division, end of !!

Of course you are gonna hear protestations to the opposite but the harsh and inevitable truth is we do not have the quality of team now to compete with their top pros but a harsher truth is ... we haven't been able to for the past 5 years or so .. the results speak for themselves; we can compete with their semi-pro level teams, thats about it I'm afraid.

I think we have the players but not the proper infrastructure around them, things like correct training and mindsets.
When I took Nexus over in the good ole days when we did have a UK team that could compete on the world stage, we also had a support package that totaled something approaching £150k when you factored everything in ... that was a lot of money and enabled regular training and also regular travel to events in the US.
But this was in line with all the other pro teams anyway and so we were for the most part, pretty much all on similar levels of financing.
We focused upon the US and not Europe because I knew damned well that there was no way I could call Nexus one of the best teams in the world just playing in Europe .. it's a complete fantasy to adjudicate any world positioning by just playing the MS, it cannot be done.
I knew we would never get to be the best but it didn't stop us trying and achieving a top 10 position [7th] in our first year which was a pretty good achievement for a team of full of Brits.

Playing in the US is like a rites of passage for any paintballer, you just have to do it once and if I were in a UK team now, I'd be advocating we go to the World Cup, historically the largest event in the US ...

And as for the question of training over here and being able to compete at the top.. damned right you can, we did it ... it wasn't the fact we played in the US that enabled us to compete it was our training and if you need any confirmation of this, think about what the Russians did .. they trained their asses off in Moscow for years and became the best ... the people who really know about paintball fully realize where their playing level came from and it wasn't just from playing in the US, it came from Moscow.
The trick to it all is .. to do the right training and to manage it correctly, from what I have seen of teams 'training' over here, ALL of them fall into the trap of believing playing paintball is training paintball .. it ain't, it's playing paintball.
If you wanna improve to a point where you wish to compete at the top you need to play [scrimmage] AND train.

When I've been to Brciket Wood, for the most part, all I have seen is teams play.

 

[Tony Harrison]

If we could put a UK team together with a full-time coach the calibre of Ledz, Twizz, Edwards or Robbo, they could be world beaters.

All the top US teams have a solid coaching roster, usually with 2 or 3 guys rostered as coaches.

 

[Robbo]

I think it's safe to say .. 'please take me off the list' ......

 

[Perkins]

1. Ditch ramping. It kills movement, and BPS is on a steadily downward spiral since the heady days of 2003/4.
2. Ditch coaching. It also kills movement.

Going back to Semi would just bring back the cheater board issue though wouldn't it ? if everyone is shooting 10.5 or whatever bps it is these days you can tell the guys that are over the limit

what really kills movement, while playing in the USA back in the day, is playing against certain pro teams that did use ramping / break out modes, this really made moving impossible and is difficult to have an answer for.

 

[Tony Harrison]

Going back to Semi would just bring back the cheater board issue though wouldn't it ? if everyone is shooting 10.5 or whatever bps it is these days you can tell the guys that are over the limit

what really kills movement, while playing in the USA back in the day, is playing against certain pro teams that did use ramping / break out modes, this really made moving impossible and is difficult to have an answer for.

Agreed.

Simple solution - give Judges Tasers to deal with offenders.

Mind you, that's only a short step away from giving Apes the vote - and we've all seen how that one turned out in "Planet of the Apes".

 

[automag]

I guess this may have been talked about before... What about limiting the amount of paint taken on to a field, that would make people think about their tactics.