He's a qoute for you
- Thread starter Tournie player
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I think 'Tourney player' said it all!
One thing he missed is the potential for outside sponsors. If you take the model of football where all league teams are based on a location, what do they all have in common, the main sponsor is from outside the football industry.
If a team is getting recognition in the media then this is what a sponsor is looking for. Local firms sponsor local clubs, I know from 16 years experience of working in the sport trade, and internationally recognised teams get international attention seeking sponsors i.e. Man Utd & Vodafone.
Paintball sponsors will be the ones that cover your kit/equipment expenses. 'Outside' sponsors will help torwards your other expenses like hotels/travel etc. The potential explosion in the game isn't that far behind.
Local is the way to go!!
One thing he missed is the potential for outside sponsors. If you take the model of football where all league teams are based on a location, what do they all have in common, the main sponsor is from outside the football industry.
If a team is getting recognition in the media then this is what a sponsor is looking for. Local firms sponsor local clubs, I know from 16 years experience of working in the sport trade, and internationally recognised teams get international attention seeking sponsors i.e. Man Utd & Vodafone.
Paintball sponsors will be the ones that cover your kit/equipment expenses. 'Outside' sponsors will help torwards your other expenses like hotels/travel etc. The potential explosion in the game isn't that far behind.
Local is the way to go!!
Funnily enough, i strongly beleive in this, Local is the way to go. the team im in might actually be getting sponsered by the local paper, and last year when the local paper came to the Series 2k tournie at Quibell Park, they were all over it!
Local is defenately the way to go!!
Local is defenately the way to go!!
First of, why is the persons identity concealed??
Secondly
Ok lets say my team enters the League and starts winning regularly, we get a bit of TV/paper exposure, then the public after watching/hearing about tourny sup air ball decide to go to their local site and gat to play...... woodsball.
Ok I'm not going to go into the wood v's sup air thing but one thing is clear, it certainly aint the same beast. That aside though the nearest site to me is Knutsford, they wouldn't give me a £10 refund let alone a bloody £400 enterance fee.
I very much doubt that unless we were the site team we'd get any recognition for any extra custom that would come off the back of us winning some matches.
Wheres this talk of crap paint thats unfit for site use come from? I dunno about anyone else but we tested the paint before we excepted sponsorship (thanks Atmosphere/Severe, we love you!).
Paul.
Secondly
Ok lets say my team enters the League and starts winning regularly, we get a bit of TV/paper exposure, then the public after watching/hearing about tourny sup air ball decide to go to their local site and gat to play...... woodsball.
Ok I'm not going to go into the wood v's sup air thing but one thing is clear, it certainly aint the same beast. That aside though the nearest site to me is Knutsford, they wouldn't give me a £10 refund let alone a bloody £400 enterance fee.
I very much doubt that unless we were the site team we'd get any recognition for any extra custom that would come off the back of us winning some matches.
Wheres this talk of crap paint thats unfit for site use come from? I dunno about anyone else but we tested the paint before we excepted sponsorship (thanks Atmosphere/Severe, we love you!
).Paul.
nice words
nice words paul this crap paint buis sucks
youve just got too look at dynasty whatdo these guys shoot v-comp and oh forgot to say the shot it at dam and won not only that but it was wdps very own site ball which punters use and we used it at koth and uttoxeter and this new site ball that they are trying rocks we love you all at wdp
the vcomp rocks it flys as straight as a dime
and we are promoting the sport as much as we can we have outside sponsorship from a garage where i work and my gaffa never heard of paintball till i introduced him to it now he loves it and gives us a bung for most of our events we also have a team van all painted and nicely signwritten as i use every day for my normal work to me this is doing for the paintball buisness and our sponsores names are on the side of the van too which gives them publicity also
nice words paul this crap paint buis sucks
youve just got too look at dynasty whatdo these guys shoot v-comp and oh forgot to say the shot it at dam and won not only that but it was wdps very own site ball which punters use and we used it at koth and uttoxeter and this new site ball that they are trying rocks we love you all at wdp
the vcomp rocks it flys as straight as a dime
and we are promoting the sport as much as we can we have outside sponsorship from a garage where i work and my gaffa never heard of paintball till i introduced him to it now he loves it and gives us a bung for most of our events we also have a team van all painted and nicely signwritten as i use every day for my normal work to me this is doing for the paintball buisness and our sponsores names are on the side of the van too which gives them publicity also
Someone always has an exception to the rule, someone comes up with a good idea which will benefit paintball as a whole, then someone else comes along with a reason why it won't be right for them. Maybe the above "Ego's" coment is appropriate.
What's the paranoia about v-comp and Severe, tourny player never mentioned any particular brands of paint, yet you suddenly defend V-Comp and Severe.
Paul, with respect if a first timer had the choice of woodland scenario games where he or she could attack bases, hide in bushes, ambush their mates etc or play supair ball all day, I am afraid supair would loose out every time.
Rob
What's the paranoia about v-comp and Severe, tourny player never mentioned any particular brands of paint, yet you suddenly defend V-Comp and Severe.
Paul, with respect if a first timer had the choice of woodland scenario games where he or she could attack bases, hide in bushes, ambush their mates etc or play supair ball all day, I am afraid supair would loose out every time.
Rob
ROB
hi mate but i think we are missing the point here just a bit how many times have you told some one about paintball the first thing that comes into there head is abunch of nutters running around the woods playing army with guns that fire paint does it wash out what if it gets in my eyes etc. These are all questions we as marshall get asked all the time by new players at the local rec ball site of coarse every one has to start somewhere i did. even when you talk to players at the local site first timers they dont even know just how much of a sport painball is dont even know that there are leagues that people play in or about people playing on grass fields around blow up obstacles. i played at my local site for 3 months and got better and better then purchased a angel marker but who gets any fun out of shooting the crap out of punters because it sure aint doing the sport any good and all it is doing is turning punters away from the sport so sorry but we have not got big egos but we spend alot of money on the sport and i certainly could not afford to play the sport at the level we play if it was not for our sponsores and i certainly do enjoy the sport and try and introduce as many people into it as possible.
That is why we have a young guns team called blue heat these are young players which we pick up at the local site and tell them about paintball bring them along let them use our kit see if they like tourney ball and see just how big the sport is if they like they stay with us and benifit from our team sponsorship deals etc which then brings buisiness into our sponsores when they turn up and buy new markers and clothing etc.
how many players do you know that go to there local site every month to play running around bushes shooting there mates etc because where i marshall i only see the odd face whcih says something it either hurts **** loads or its too costly now how is that going to do the sport any good we have a satisfaction note which we give to our customers at the end of each day asking them what they thought of there day playing paintball the people they met etc and comments every sheet we have back says the day was brilliant only fault was the paint was very expensive so is that customer gonna come back next month 30%chance we have looked into this at our site this is why if a player enjoys the sport why not introduce them to the tourney scene then every one will win you will win and you,r sponsores will win and the sport will grow alot more and alot faster
no ego here just my own fact,s and findings
hi mate but i think we are missing the point here just a bit how many times have you told some one about paintball the first thing that comes into there head is abunch of nutters running around the woods playing army with guns that fire paint does it wash out what if it gets in my eyes etc. These are all questions we as marshall get asked all the time by new players at the local rec ball site of coarse every one has to start somewhere i did. even when you talk to players at the local site first timers they dont even know just how much of a sport painball is dont even know that there are leagues that people play in or about people playing on grass fields around blow up obstacles. i played at my local site for 3 months and got better and better then purchased a angel marker but who gets any fun out of shooting the crap out of punters because it sure aint doing the sport any good and all it is doing is turning punters away from the sport so sorry but we have not got big egos but we spend alot of money on the sport and i certainly could not afford to play the sport at the level we play if it was not for our sponsores and i certainly do enjoy the sport and try and introduce as many people into it as possible.
That is why we have a young guns team called blue heat these are young players which we pick up at the local site and tell them about paintball bring them along let them use our kit see if they like tourney ball and see just how big the sport is if they like they stay with us and benifit from our team sponsorship deals etc which then brings buisiness into our sponsores when they turn up and buy new markers and clothing etc.
how many players do you know that go to there local site every month to play running around bushes shooting there mates etc because where i marshall i only see the odd face whcih says something it either hurts **** loads or its too costly now how is that going to do the sport any good we have a satisfaction note which we give to our customers at the end of each day asking them what they thought of there day playing paintball the people they met etc and comments every sheet we have back says the day was brilliant only fault was the paint was very expensive so is that customer gonna come back next month 30%chance we have looked into this at our site this is why if a player enjoys the sport why not introduce them to the tourney scene then every one will win you will win and you,r sponsores will win and the sport will grow alot more and alot faster
no ego here just my own fact,s and findings
Or of course you could misinterpret my post entirely.
Regardless off that fact I still doubt the line of thinking that suggests a site owner, many of whom struggle in the winter months let alone the rest of the year, are gonna put up the green backs despite any increased revenue.
The initial post seemed to suggest that if a company came up to team X and said right we'll give you this paint at say £16 a case a team would take it regardless if it was square, flew round corners or simply broke as soon as you looked at it, sorry but I doubt it!!
Now I'm sure he/she'll enjoy the day and hopefully come back but at the end of the day its similar equipment but a tottaly different game.
Would local exposure of the game increse the number of customers at paintball sites? probably yes. Would the extra cash be passed to 'the local team'? sorry but I doubt it.
Interesting how 'tourney player' hasn't come back to defend their point yet you have Rob, same person?????
Paul
My point about sites sponsoring 'the local team' off the back of increased sales wasn't that it wouldn't work just for me, I'm 100% sure that there are more teams not associated with a site then there are associated with one.
Regardless off that fact I still doubt the line of thinking that suggests a site owner, many of whom struggle in the winter months let alone the rest of the year, are gonna put up the green backs despite any increased revenue.
I wasn't defending Severe. The point I was making is that if someone offered my team sponsorship I'm sure as **** gonna test the paint first as I'm sure most teams would!!!
The initial post seemed to suggest that if a company came up to team X and said right we'll give you this paint at say £16 a case a team would take it regardless if it was square, flew round corners or simply broke as soon as you looked at it, sorry but I doubt it!!
I'm sure that woods ball would win v's supair but yet again you miss my point. I remain unconvinced that a first time player after hearing about or watching sup-air for the first time isn't gonna be a tad dissapointed when he arrives for his first day of playing only to play somthing vaguely familiar to what they saw.
Now I'm sure he/she'll enjoy the day and hopefully come back but at the end of the day its similar equipment but a tottaly different game.
Would local exposure of the game increse the number of customers at paintball sites? probably yes. Would the extra cash be passed to 'the local team'? sorry but I doubt it.
Interesting how 'tourney player' hasn't come back to defend their point yet you have Rob, same person?????
Paul
Think again
Maybe because it is not my point, Paul and I do not share some of these views. I just copied and pasted it here, so it could be seen by a wider audience and therefore promote debateOriginally posted by Paul_collier
Interesting how 'tourney player' hasn't come back to defend their point yet you have Rob, same person?????
Paul