help choosing an autococker

[Walker (Nitro)]

Nothing comes even close to what Belsales and Planet do to the autococker.........

if you want that little extra exclusivety then go for the evo-x, but the eclipse does the same job and is also nice to look at. The evp-x should have been made in germany!, the parts used, the attention to detail is out of this world!, dont fall for all the cosmetic ****e like the kapp and black magic etc, if you want pure finess and grace go for one of the two.

Evolutions have a higher resale value because of their exclusiveness, everybody seems to have an eclipse's nowadays so they are a bit cheaper second hand.

 

[eric]

I don't get paid to say this or anything,(although tips ARE excepted) but order a WPG
It depends on what you want to spend for the gun.
Don't pay attention to the prices in WPG though, they are way off.

 

[warpd]

Personally i think Evos are the best cockers made. I don't have one though, i shoot a Dark Cocker which are really nice, efficient and accurate. Plus you get a lifetime warranty on them from Warped Sportz. The new ones i think are a little ugly looking compared to the older generations. Mine is the generation before this current one, the trigger is a little stiff but thats speaking relatively.

 

[smartecosse]

what do u all think a standard vert feed cocker with a race gun grip would be like?

 

[Walker (Nitro)]

Poo......

You'd have to spend about another 200 to make it worthwhile on stuff like a shorter three-way like the angry, a faster ram like the Palmer Quickram, a lighter cocking rod like the Kapp, and a lighter back block.

your better off just buying a blade framed eclipse or evo, i can rack off the same amount with a blade than with a raceframe.

plus you have to fiddle with the settings all the time with the raceframe.

i know racegun are selling standard cockers with raceframes, but you really need a custom cocker with a shorter back block like the evo or eclipse, which also come with the fast pneaumatics like the ram and 3 way, plus the lighter cocking rod......

 

[Stan]

Just my 2p's worth but generally agree with what's been said above... Either an Eclipse or an Evo.

Personally i prefer the Eclipse... More attitude, better milling etc.

BUT

I would compare the Evo with an F1 and the Eclipse with a rally car. Does that make sense?

If not, you can kiss my big hairy butt chee....

 

[Stan]

STRYAXZ

i do have my eyes on a k2 autococker try looken at those

I didn't know that the machine were producing their own version of a cocker or have i got the ****ty end of the stick?

 

[Walker (Nitro)]

u do have the ****ty end of the stick!!!

ma homeboys cant even play let alone make a custom cocker!!!(kidding u fags!)

he's talking abou the kapp K2 flame cocker, that heap a junk that costs **** loads for a nice milling job!

 

[Stan]

Now i know that K2 love the boys over at Planet / Eclipse but surely this is a prime opportunity to get some sexy, shiny kit in a K2 sponsorship package?

I'm sure that they could get access to Lisa Harvey worked into the bargain?

Dang... better go wash my hands!

 

[Flash-Bugout]

Originally posted by Walker (PsychoPimps)
Poo......

You'd have to spend about another 200 to make it worthwhile on stuff like a shorter three-way like the angry, a faster ram like the Palmer Quickram, a lighter cocking rod like the Kapp, and a lighter back block.

i know racegun are selling standard cockers with raceframes, but you really need a custom cocker with a shorter back block like the evo or eclipse, which also come with the fast pneaumatics like the ram and 3 way, plus the lighter cocking rod......

From my quick calculations:

Vert feed "stock" cocker from Race (black grip): 938 Euros (approx £573) plus postage (??)

All you would need at most, is a Palmer quick ram, and maybe a delrin bolt (if you can find them for the new style cocker back block). (no 3-way needed, as the race grip uses an electronic one)

Quick Ram: 39 Euros from Race (about £24 quid) (they'd fit it too no doubt).

So, for approx £600 plus postage - you'd have a marker that ripped it with the best of them

If you buy a stock vert feed and 'seconds' blade frame from planet, along with a Shocktech Bomb 3-way, I make it about £567.20 plus postage. Obviously the ram is not upgraded, so your back block still cycles at "stock" rate, which still isn't bad BTW.

Also - does the blade frame have to option on having an air assist, or an anti-chop eye? (plus other upgrades too wonderful to mention)

your better off just buying a blade framed eclipse or evo, i can rack off the same amount with a blade than with a raceframe.

At the chrony station, sure, an evo with a blade will do the same as an evo with a race, but after 8 minutes and almost 1000 rounds?
I've used a blade-evo, which I could fire faster than my race. Up to a point. Maybe I'm not so hot with the trigger finger (what? the g/f's been busy with work lately, my practice time has been limited! ) but towards the end of a game, a player shooting an electro has the advantage, as his fingers aint so tired.

plus you have to fiddle with the settings all the time with the raceframe.

Not necessarily true - Raceguns rock as they are. I'll admit, you
CAN fiddle with them all the time but once you've got your optimum settings, you never need to touch them again.
Also, IMHO it it a whole world of easier to time a race grip than a blade frame.

Blade frame - little squeeze on the trigger, ahh, that's about where the 3-way should activate, set that, fiddle inside the gun setting the lug to the right position in the hammer. Nope still feels a bit sloppy, fiddle fiddle. That's it.

Race frame - connect cable to grip and pc/palm pda. Right, my timings are Xms, Xms, Xms, Xms, Xms. Click. Done. Feels a bit off, change that setting to Yms. Click. Done. Chopping a little - increase the time the bolt stays open. Click. etc etc.

Just my tuppence worth - as long as you buy a cocker, whatever flavour, then you'll be doing the right thing in my mind

Peace....