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TOOLE

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i wish i could be arsed to sign up ti those forums to take the piss outta him :)

someone just tell himto go to the doctors :D
 

Red_Merkin

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The truth is, Sam, you shouldn't laugh.
The other day i heard you telling Naill that you thought one of the dive tanks was full because it felt heavier than the others.
;)
 

Collier

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Originally posted by Red_Merkin
The truth is, Sam, you shouldn't laugh.
The other day i heard you telling Naill that you thought one of the dive tanks was full because it felt heavier than the others.
;)
what's wrong with that? ;)

Originally posted by Thordic
Using this formula:

Air has an average molecular weight of 29 (28 for N2*.8 + 32 for O2 * .2)
1 mole of gas at STP occupies a volume of 22.4 L, therefore, 29g {~1 oz)of air at STP occupies 22.4 L

Take you tank volume in Liters (ft3X28.3 or cu in X .0164) and correct to STP (forget the temperature, just multiply the volume by 204 or 306{3000psi/14.7psi; 4500/14.7psi}. This gives you the gas volume at STP.

Divide this volume by 22.4 and you get the weight of air in oz.


Using that, you get the following information:

3000 PSI = 204 atm
4500 PSI = 306 atm

47ci = 0.77 L
68ci = 1.11 L
88ci = 1.44 L
114ci = 1.87 L

So now, just plug it into what I said above, and you get these weights:

47ci 3000PSI tank: 7.0 ounces of air
68ci 3000PSI tank: 10.1 ounces of air
88ci 3000PSI tank: 13.1 ounces of air
114ci 3000PSI tank: 17.0 ounces of air

47ci 4500PSI tank: 10.5 ounces of air
68ci 4500PSI tank: 15.1 ounces of air
88ci 4500PSI tank: 19.7 ounces of air
114ci 4500PSI tank: 25.5 ounces of air

As you can see, the weight of compressed air is not negligible, especially in higher pressure setups.
Paul
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Red_Merkin

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ok paul, but can you tell the differnece between a full dive tank and an empty one just by picking it up?
cause if you can the guy down the dive shop could probably give you a job filling tanks on Saturday morning.
;)
 

sjt19

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Originally posted by Red_Merkin
ok paul, but can you tell the differnece between a full dive tank and an empty one just by picking it up?
cause if you can the guy down the dive shop could probably give you a job filling tanks on Saturday morning.
;)
right then, i should give the guy at the dive shop a call to put my skillsto good use.;)
 

Collier

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Originally posted by Red_Merkin
ok paul, but can you tell the differnece between a full dive tank and an empty one just by picking it up?
cause if you can the guy down the dive shop could probably give you a job filling tanks on Saturday morning.
;)
lol like I need to fill dive tanks.... :D :D :D

For the record no I can't but theoretically you could....

:p

Paul
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