Can you tell me which part of Section 9 you are refering to??
Maybe I'm not reading it right, but I can't see where it says NO PADDED VESTS or similar.
ground pounder vests?
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Maybe I'm not reading it right, but I can't see where it says NO PADDED VESTS or similar.
It does not say no padded vests, however it is very clear that it is two layers only, and if you read the rider at the bottom of the page it explains that a layer is defined as a T shirt type material with a cloth weight of 150 grams per square metre.
Russ
The Millennium announced last season that chest protectors from all manufacturers are now considered legal.
Thanks for clearing that up.....
I do see your point, however, didn't a lot of people raise this type of protest when DYE released their playing jerseys with the built in padding a couple of years back??
Obviously, the forearm protection is approved so long as you do not wear an additional set of pads underneath (unless I'm still reading it wrong).
Taken from the DYE website "Contoured shoulder protection is also critical in helping to reduce the sting of close range bunker shots..."
Therefore, if you wear a DYE playing jersey, are you saying that you are not allowed to wear an under layer because of the shoulder padding....
or...
Do you have to cut away the area of t-shirt directly under the padding??
Syd,
That may be true because I know a few players who did wear them, but I am only going by the published rules.
Now if they have changed their outlook on the matter it would be good of them to let everyone know.
I will have a word with Ulrich and let you know.
Russ
They did make an official announcement, but the rules are in dire need of updating as we all know.
As stupid as that sounds it did get to that point because you will find the "allowed" limits seem to be changing every year.
You really don't think companies manufacturer that sort of detailing for real protection do you..... if you wanted protection you can and always have been allowed to use hard protection it's the foam type that we all know are designed to assist in gaining bouncers.
I remember a few years ago National brought out a shirt with built in "arm protection" and those were an absolute joke in the normal gun holding position it was like having a bounce shield in front of you, I made them change shirts or remove the padding because taking the pi** is not something that should happen and it only does if we let it.
So at what point do we say this is the line and no more..... who is playing the game, is anyone really saying they are unable to compete at tourney level with out wearing a bounce mat (and that is all it is lets be honest)
For years they was not in the game and it was fine, I do remember getting lit up a few times and having some real ugly bruises but guns have now been capped at 12bps they can shoot much more fragile paint than ever before which in itself hurts a dam sight less and if you are playing at the so called highest lever in Europe perhaps thats the paint that you should be using.
As for the Dye products you are referring to, I checked them out and to be completely honest with you I had no problem with them, it did as I am sure was their intention highlight the shirt in such a way that it looked better than others in the market place.
And as for reducing the sting or close range bunker shots ........ Well maybe it did ........ but marketing hype is also a possibility
The truth is some criteria must be laid down worldwide for the manufacturers to work to and we have to also realise it will be at least two years for it to implemented, the designs that are on the racks now was on the design board two years ago.
Russ
I had a word with Ulrich and he said a new set of rules will be published before the Malaga event in April and it will be made clear in there.
But they are currently allowed in all divisions.
He says the euro-refs are more concerned about looking for hits than having to check vests off field.
My advice to all players is pad up as much as you can, I don't think they will be checking you
We will be checking at the PA and since I have agreed to use MS rules this season you may also use them there as long as they comply with the 2008 rules as written.
Russ
But they are currently allowed in all divisions.
He says the euro-refs are more concerned about looking for hits than having to check vests off field.
My advice to all players is pad up as much as you can, I don't think they will be checking you
We will be checking at the PA and since I have agreed to use MS rules this season you may also use them there as long as they comply with the 2008 rules as written.
Russ
Word of warning, one of my team mates got serious dehydration/ heat stroke from wearing one of theses vests and not drinking enough fluid in the last PA. These things insulate you alot so you get too hot very quickly, I have never worn one and Pain is only weakness leaving your body, so MAN UP.
i tried out a ground pounder shirt this weekend, i thought it was great. It was a bit stiff at first but soon broke it in. Not too sweaty either and had a huge advantage over my mates proto shirt in that it doesn't stick to you so you can actually take it off easily.
Not sure how practical they will be on a fine summers day but I can see they benefits on a stinging cold winters morning
Not sure how practical they will be on a fine summers day but I can see they benefits on a stinging cold winters morning