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sjt19

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Re: Just out of interest

Originally posted by Joern Windler
like shockwave trashed their
hotelrooms last year
WTF??

I dont think that you are in possession of all the facts about that incident Joern. The hotel rooms weren't trashed as the guys found out later on their return to the hotel a few days after the event. If you want to discuss this then i would suggest that bringing it up on public boards when you have no idea what you are talking about is highly slanderous, and a foolish thing to do.

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Re: Just out of interest

Originally posted by Joern Windler
outside the players party place and was just after the players party was over it is close enough to the tournament.
i disagree, what right does the comittee have to regulate something that happened off the tournament site. You are not members of the police force, and as such have no jurisdiction. Even if you thought that you did, the incident took place after the players party had finished right? And the players party would signal the end of the event, so in my opinion the disciplinary committee has no influence at all.

Hypothetical Scenario: a Player gets into a fight on the friday night of the event, off site in a bar in the city, does the committee have any right to punish him? If so then why?

In my opinion Joern if you want to investigate the incident, join the Stockholm police.

Whilst the incident was fairly outrageous it is a police matter if the injured party wants to report it, if not then let sleeping dogs lie. It is not the committees place to make judgement
 

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Re: Re: Just out of interest

Originally posted by sjt19
WTF??

I dont think that you are in possession of all the facts about that incident Joern. The hotel rooms weren't trashed as the guys found out later on their return to the hotel a few days after the event. If you want to discuss this then i would suggest that bringing it up on public boards when you have no idea what you are talking about is highly slanderous, and a foolish thing to do.

IF you quote me, quote CORRECT!
I wrote "eventually"!

And btw the reason for the existence of rules 38.x was exactly that incident. Thats why I brought up "your" name. People remember the stuff even better if I refer to an incident than to rule XX.XX.

.. and Im pretty aware of all the stuff, cause I was one of the two guys who sorted things out with the hotel and also with Russ Steel.


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Re: Just out of interest

Originally posted by Joern Windler
(like shockwave (eventually) trashed their
hotelrooms last year ) after an event.
I quoted you:

"like shockwave trashed their hotelrooms last year "

What difference does the 'eventually' in brackets mean?

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duffistuta

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I think he means it took them a long time to trash the rooms...maybe they were tired?

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I have no idea what he means, grammatically the 'eventually' makes no sense, so i erased it. ;)

How did the biking go Duffy?:)
 
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duffistuta

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Pretty good cheers - I broke my partner on day two - he was on two saline drips for an hour - but he recovered and we made it through to the end with only moderate loss of skin, blood and bone...think we were the 3rd placed Brit pair overall, but could have been 4th.

/Threadjack off/
 
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duffistuta

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Yep. He crossed the finish line, said 'I think you better call a medic' and collapsed.

Ooops.

:eek:

Back on topic(ish) - what happened with all the people moaning about Lasoya at Toulouse? Let me guess, no-one contacted the EPA and made an official complaint, despite much wailing and gnashing of teeth on these boards...:rolleyes:
 
Okay first thing is first....

Sammy - do me a favour and lay off Joern - at least for his "grammatically incorrect" english - or maybe you would prefer to continue in German - his native language. Without trying to put words in his mouth - I think he meant "supposedly" instead of "eventually". Peace dude not every one can speak the "Queen's English" :)

2nd - there is a fine line between where our responsibilty stops and the polices begins. In my opinion if something is done off the fields but still at an official event function (i.e. players party) then we are obligated to look at it. If it was unprovoked then things will be done to handle it. As far as off the site... well I personally believe that as long as the front page of the newspaper isn't "Paintball player goes wild...." then it is up to the local authorities. But if anything is done to compromise the game, the series and/or the event then I feel we must step in.

Last but not least... Lasoya. There where numerous posts here regarding Chris & Toulouse.
Let's look at them:
1) he played dirty,
2) he supposedly made some dumb statements about hurting/bonusballing the other team (I say supposedly not because I don't believe the person who heard it, but what is said in the "heat of battle" and is also uncorroborated can't be a reason to comdem someone - we all say sh!t every now and then, it's a matter of acting on it).
3) he made a spectacle of himself at the awards ceremony.

now my responses...
1) this should have been taken care of during/right after the game.
2) same as above especially if he did use excess amount of paint during the process of making an elimination (nice legalese way to say to say BONUSBALLLING)
3) in the current MS rules there is nothing that deals with making a jackass out of yourself in front of a lot of people. The player misconduct section is too loose when it comes to this kinda stuff.

The purpose of the DC is to deal with the actions that are either detrimental to the sport or way out of line with what is written in the rules. Playing policeman and keeping check on every little thing is not our job - that is what the rules and the Millennium staff at each event are for, and many of the infractions should be handled on site - not after.

goose

P.S. I know that before the tournament players/teams where warned about swearing - that it would result in penalties. Maybe for every time Lasoya said "eat a d!ck" Miaimi effect should have lost 50 points - that would have put them in last place based on the number of times he said it. Either that or the organizers should have cut the microphone after the first one.