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Fat-Frank

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Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
FYI - all laydown medium beercans (Tomahawk and JT fields), will be replaced with laydown bricks.

We just realised that this years version of the medium beercan (as opposed to last years), do not have straps to lay them down.

Christian: I am still looking forward to you submitting a design, instead of always complaining ;) - And I STILL find it curious that the more you complain about the designs, the better your results get :D:D:D

Nick
PS! Nick, send Christian the program for field designing, so maybe in the future he could submitt you with some designs.

His mind is working 24/7 so i`m sure he would find some time for field designing too :D
 

Cuttsy

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ye mayb you should let people on this form room have a go at designing. sort of like a competition, the design that works the best is used(etc)
 

Nick Brockdorff

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That's actually a good idea Fighter!

We'll see for next year - Madrid being the last one, and the MS going through some changes, it's hard to say what will happen.

But I will definitely keep that idea in mind!

Frank - I'll do that, as soon as it is clear what fields and bunker shapes are going to be used next year.

Nick
 

Christian-Malera

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Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
FYI - all laydown medium beercans (Tomahawk and JT fields), will be replaced with laydown bricks.

We just realised that this years version of the medium beercan (as opposed to last years), do not have straps to lay them down.

Christian: I am still looking forward to you submitting a design, instead of always complaining ;) - And I STILL find it curious that the more you complain about the designs, the better your results get :D:D:D

Nick
You know me Nick, I don't feel good if I don't get to complain:D

If your theory is right we are going to be unbeatable this time with these designs, ha ha ha

I would like to propose some designs, but I guess people will find them boring or hard to move.........this is based upon the other coments on this earlier.
 

tiger jedi

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hmmmm

Originally posted by psycho
Personally, I think them fields look absolute pants!! Only my 2 pence, but they just look thrown together... Maybe they will be ok once u get down on the grass!!
I have said it time & again you can not create a good field on a computer just the same way you cant walk or plan your games from them, you will always need to see it in the flesh.;)
 

shamu

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Apr 17, 2002
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Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
So - from all the critics... previously people have complained there were too many bunkers and that the 50 yard line bunkers were not effective enough.

So, those two things have been taken into account in the designs for Madrid.

What NOW is wrong?

I think people wanted a step back from the number of bunkers on the field, not an about face. Some of these designs have gone too far in the opposite direction. The Dye field is a perfect example of this - there's only 2 back bunkers per side.

A field full of little tiny bunkers is not fun to play, while a field with only a few huge bunkers isn't much fun either. Ideally, you should have a balance between the number, size/type and locations of bunkers.

With these designs, you seem to have gone from feast (too many bunkers/choices) to famine (not enough). Maybe something a little more balanced?
 

Red_Merkin

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I have said it time & again you can not create a good field on a computer just the same way you cant walk or plan your games from them, you will always need to see it in the flesh.
Practically speaking, you're right.

However if your fields are designed in 3D, by someone who actually knows what different configurations of bunkers will play like, you have the possiblility of making some great fields. If the field designer does their job well, they will place the 3D camera behind each bunker, and see what they can see.

When i do 3D field design, i usually start with features i know will work. I have to admit that the millennium series fields are a bit unconventionial, and i wouldn't design any of them the way they have been done.

Personally i love designing xball fields, because after the fact we play them out for 20 points, and i get lots of feedback from the players. I use this experience to design new fields.

In addition, if the 3D fields are reproduced accuratly, you should be able to do a good amount of your field walking from the schematics.

For example, you should be able to see which bunkers you can shoot from the snake, and so on.

With the 1m square grids used on the astroturf in the millennium series, you should be able to reproduce a field design that is 100% accurate.

Practically speaking your statement was correct, but with more attention to detail, virtual field design and field walking could be possible in the future.
 

Rosie

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The Chronic field is similar sort of to the Mil field at Campaign

on the upper side with that row of teabags, that is nice

we watched the finals on the mil field and sooo many runs came down that side.

will make for active games anyway