If I remember rightly from Jack's PbN post, two battery packs in series and a moddded board to stop it burning out.
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its all to do with shots in semi response timeBut given that we all play tourneys with a 15bps cap.....who gives a monkey's arse anyway?
the faster you can get to 15 bps the better.
thats why fast guns = better
lol, surely that should be limited by your fingers if you have a legal gun?
The vast majority of tourney markers out there today could shoot 15bps straight away if setup on full auto on the first trigger pull. So I'm not quite sure how the gun being capable of 40bps helps being able to shoot faster in semi?
Good point, it doesn't make a difference. Jack Wood and the eclipse lot are only getting it to 40bps for bragging rights and I bet it was a good laugh as well.lol, surely that should be limited by your fingers if you have a legal gun?
The vast majority of tourney markers out there today could shoot 15bps straight away if setup on full auto on the first trigger pull. So I'm not quite sure how the gun being capable of 40bps helps being able to shoot faster in semi?
lol, surely that should be limited by your fingers if you have a legal gun?
The vast majority of tourney markers out there today could shoot 15bps straight away if setup on full auto on the first trigger pull. So I'm not quite sure how the gun being capable of 40bps helps being able to shoot faster in semi?
depends how the software works, and how fast the eye logic will allow you to shoot, and how fast the firing mechanism can cycle, which is all demonstrably "very fast" on the SL74.
your telling me an old angel or something is as easy to shoot to 15 bps in semi? no cos all of the above arent as "good" as the newer markers. this development of speed capabilities all helps you reach those speeds easier.
that is my take on it anyway. if someone wants to demonstrate with scientific evidence how that isnt correct then thats fine.
i think the same way with loaders, the faster the better, especially in terms of "kick in time". thats why i liked reloader b the best. spring tension, plus fast motor = fast in semi.
the above is also i would say definitely true for uncapped semi.
I can see there being a very slight advantage of having a gun that is capped at 15bps but can mechanically do 40bps (known as gun A), compared to one that is only capped at 15bps due to electronics and mechanics (known as gun B)
The slight advantage that I can see is that the very first ball will be out the end of the barrel ever so slightly quicker, not because of the velocity differences, but because of dwell times ect.
For example to do one full cycle gun A will take 0.025 seconds (1 / 40), lets say for arguements sake that the time taken for the gun to register a shot, the dwell time for all the air to be released, and the time for the ball to have started on its travel down the barrel 0.018s. And the other 0.07s is the time for the bolt to go back, a new ball to be loaded and for the gun to be fired for the next shot
But gun B which can only cycle 15 times a second, will take 0.067s to do a full cycle and I will pretty safely say that the gun will not have that ball in its same position in the barrel after 0.018s. Therefore meaning the ball will have left the barrel of gun B after the ball has left gun A. Thus slightly reducing the time that your opponent has of moving out of the path of the ball
The flaw with this though is that, well first off the time wont be that huge of a factor I dont think, its a factor but not a huge one. And secondly, guns like cockers have the advantage of already having the bolt forward and ready to shoot.
Just a thought thats all
-Mat
The slight advantage that I can see is that the very first ball will be out the end of the barrel ever so slightly quicker, not because of the velocity differences, but because of dwell times ect.
For example to do one full cycle gun A will take 0.025 seconds (1 / 40), lets say for arguements sake that the time taken for the gun to register a shot, the dwell time for all the air to be released, and the time for the ball to have started on its travel down the barrel 0.018s. And the other 0.07s is the time for the bolt to go back, a new ball to be loaded and for the gun to be fired for the next shot
But gun B which can only cycle 15 times a second, will take 0.067s to do a full cycle and I will pretty safely say that the gun will not have that ball in its same position in the barrel after 0.018s. Therefore meaning the ball will have left the barrel of gun B after the ball has left gun A. Thus slightly reducing the time that your opponent has of moving out of the path of the ball
The flaw with this though is that, well first off the time wont be that huge of a factor I dont think, its a factor but not a huge one. And secondly, guns like cockers have the advantage of already having the bolt forward and ready to shoot.
Just a thought thats all
-Mat
Angels have been capable of going over 30 bps for a long long time so have many other markers.
That tst jack did is an extreme im sure if other manufactures could be bothered to do that they could achive comparable results.
bring it down to playing level brittle paint + loader not too fast + eyedelay at a safe setting + lpr at safe setting and dwell capable of firing a ball at 300 fps = all software and fingers can keep up so it evens things out a little.
yes it is a nice example of what guns are capable the down side is that is a $1800 gun and we have ions with worth about $300 doing over 30bps avrage, when i get the money to buy a balistic chrono it wouldnt supprise me if we could peak at 40bps too.
That tst jack did is an extreme im sure if other manufactures could be bothered to do that they could achive comparable results.
bring it down to playing level brittle paint + loader not too fast + eyedelay at a safe setting + lpr at safe setting and dwell capable of firing a ball at 300 fps = all software and fingers can keep up so it evens things out a little.
yes it is a nice example of what guns are capable the down side is that is a $1800 gun and we have ions with worth about $300 doing over 30bps avrage, when i get the money to buy a balistic chrono it wouldnt supprise me if we could peak at 40bps too.