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Orifice

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I'm in the market for an 05 ego and i really dont understand the value of any of the ups which people are listing, plus, how useful these ups actually are.

things like taodo board, star trigger, star reg, samurai trigger, oops, ccu kit, dart bolt, star frm, star trigger, etc.

also, whats the thing that angles the reg forwards a little?

just stuck, as im not sure if id be getting a good deal when there so many upgrades listed i have no idea if itd make the marker significantly better or not, or if the upgrades were a little bit of a waste of money and theyre listing them to lure people.

i get what a star trigger is, but aparently its not worth the money for me, since its hardly like im going to need these settings, being a new player and all!

if this is listed in another post, just post the link so i can delete this one :)
 

TheRenton

P8nt'in Yo Face Since 03
As a seller of one of the upped ego's, mine was an 05 model which had everything done to it to provide speed and weight advantages.
Basic ego's with nothing done to the go for circa 350-400. So adding all the ups would take you to about £550-600.
A standard stock ego for a beginner is a dream (was my first gat), so find a bargain stock gat. The only thing i'd recommend changing would be the FRM (to the 15 degree angled bit) which helps running and shooting and possibly the bolt (to a nexus)
 

Bob

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The angel thing is a Karma 15 degree FRM (Front Reg Mount).

OOPS - is the on/off purge system. It turns the air off to the marker and also purges the excess air out of the marker (but you will still need to fire off a couple of shots)

Tadoe (sp) board is a differnt board with LED's instead off an LCD screen. Has more modes etc.

Star reg is a better reg with different millin and a rotatable bit so you can change the side your macro line goes down (realy poor explanation)

Star trigger is a differnt style trigger to the stock (samurai) trigger. Stock is like a blade and star kicks out abit.

CCU kit (god knows what it stands for) changes the colour of the bits of the marker. LPR cover, eye covers, trigger, feedneck. Also the new CCU kit comes with nexus eye covers and a c-clamp feedneck (like a q-lock for ego's)

D.A.R.T (Dynamic air release technology) has six (i think 6) small holes instead of the one bit hole and is more efficient and better on paint. It is said the the nexus bolt is even better.

The star FRM comes with a gauge like on the XSV ego.

Think that about covers it. Think other people can give you more tetail on the board and bolt etc (and correct any of my mistakes)
 

Orifice

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Sep 9, 2004
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cheers guys! would any of these upgrades apart from the 15 degree frm be worthwhile getting off the bat?

do the boards even make the marker better, or couldnt i just learn to change the settings on the current board to make it perfect for me?

would a good barrel make the largest difference apart from the 15 degree frm? or any of the other upgrades best?
 

Mikey D

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In my opinion, the only thing I would change from a stock 05 Ego would be to get a star frame.
This is down to personal preferences with the trigger, as the star frame enables a trigger to be set how anybody likes. This is because it enables you to use both the magnet and a spring to set the trigger up exactly how you like it.
Possibly a barrel set, but I know most people are more than happy to use one big bore barrel like the standard Ego one which should be .693

Regarding the boards, the various other choices like Virtue, Lucky or Tadao all give a huge range of firing modes, most of which you could never use in a tournament. Things like debounce and dwell etc can be changed to higher accuracy, however I feel this is overkill as its easy enough to set up a standard board to enable you to shoot fast without getting pulled by the marshalls.

Alot of the so called 'upgrades' will not offer a great value for money, many of them are just to give people chance to customise their guns and be different. So I would say its down to how much cash you have to throw into your gun.
 

Skeet

Platinum Member
Virtue/Tadao Board:

Worth having if you can spare the cash...allows accurate adjustment of all functions of teh gun. As said, also has several firing modes of which all are adjustable. For tournament use, yes..these modes have to be locked off and for teh most part capped...but...if you play walk on, or recball etc..where the rate opf fire etc isnt capped or illegal, they are massive fun..massive.
They also seem to have faster trigger monitoring, and both boards have micro switch triggers, which many people prefer over teh Optical trigger on teh stock board.

15 Degree FRM:

Looks teh mutt's nut's! Gives a comfortable hand hold, helps with running and gunning as was stated...doesnt have a guage mount, which may be a good or bad thing depending on your viewpoint.

Star Reg:

Not sure if it is better than teh stock reg, but...it is a nicer shape, and as badly described, has a lower section which swivels, so you can choose which side, (if any) your macro line passes to your ASA, for if you are right or left handed.

Star Trigger:

I personally dont really liek any of teh current triggers for ego's, tho teh star is better. I am waiting for something nice from CP or NDZ...witha bump.
Though, with ramping...it doenst really matter as if you cant walk 7 bps with any trigger on an Electro gat, there is something wrong.

Stock/Dart/Nexus Bolt:

Stock bolt is crap...DART is better, but still breaks paint...Nexus is teh mutts nutts, and is teh best bolt available for teh ego, including aftermarket companies like NDZ...Get one.

OOPS:

As was said, this "On Off Purge System", allows you to de-gas your gun completey before unscrewing teh tank, which helps save O-Rings.
It is usually found with a rail assembly.
If you have a Star frame, they have a rail built in to teh bottom.
I personally, dont think there is sufficient room for adjustment with this set up, as teh oops wont allow me to shorten my setup any further.
Still very good though.

CCU:

CCU is actually, "CCU Kit" Colour Contrast Upgrade Kit.
As said, it allows you to have a contrasting (see what they did there?) colour on teh bolt on parts of your Ego...LPR cap, Trigger, Eye covers, Feedneck etc.
And can easily be changed to suit your mood.


All in all...these bits all cost money...most are nice to have and if included in teh price of a secondhand gun, are worth while.

That said, a stock ego...wont be noticeably different to shoot than an Upped one, but the upped one may be more confortable to use and look nicer.


Other upgrades to look out for are:

Lucky Air Assist Valve:
...Reduces teh amount of force required to open teh valve, hence lower LPR pressure, lower kick, improved efficiency, less likely to breakl paint as it hits it more softly.

Hybrid Grips:
...After market grips in various colours and designs...have a bird with her legs open on your gat..it's all good!

Barrel Kit:
...There are many varied kits out there, some good..some less so.
My choice at teh moment is a Redz Pepper Stick kit. Other barrels are Empire, Evil Pipe and dare I say teh Freak System (new one looks better).
Barrels with changeable backs are Planet Shaft, Dye Ultralights etc.

Ram Caps:
...The stock Ego Ram cap (small round bit at back of gun), is made of aluminium and if misstreated, can round off, leaving you a bit buggered when you need to get your rammer out.
A stainless version from Slothball is availabel and is a worthwhile addition.
Adjustable ram caps, liek I have by Hybrid are also available BUT...YOU DO NOT NEED TO ADJUST, NOR SHOULD YOU, your ram.
I only have teh adjustable one, as I like how it looks and it can be removed without tools. Until such time as someone makes an aftermarket ram, with varied tolerances, or if your ego magically turns itself into a peice of **** like a Timmy, you do not need to adjust your ram cap.

Erm...some people like stickers...I prefer to get my guns reannodised, coz it looks way better and in my case, means you have a one off gun.:D
 

Orifice

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Sep 9, 2004
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so you would recommend:
15 degree FRM
Nexus bolt
lucky air assist valve (would it even make a difference?)
a different trigger, if there was one that was better released in the future.

maybe:
barrel set, looks like pepper stickz
virtue/tadao board (if i had the spare cash)/star trigger frame+board



what are the options that enble you to use a spring return for the trigger? is spring return really that awesome?

heh, i know better than to mess with internals i dont understand, so ill leave them well alone, dont plan on abusing my investment any time soon!
im a lefty oddly, so the reg might be a good idea, though im sure ill be firing righty just as much, since when i went shooting with my mates i tought myself righty! god bless fathers with air rifles.
 

Skeet

Platinum Member
Yeah...15 degree, Nexus Bolt.

What teh Lucky Valve does, is...well...in a normal Ego, you have something like 300 psi sitting behind teh vale...so...in order to open teh valve, the LPR needs to provide enough pressure to whack teh rammer into teh valve..hard enough to allow sufficient gas through...its a balance, between LPR, Inline and how much Kick/noise/how hard on paint, you want..as well as final velocity.

What teh Lucky Air Assist does...is uses some air, to help teh rammer open teh valve...it still has 300psi or whantever, sitting behind it...but...teh diverted air, means its much easier for teh rammer to open teh valve...therefore, LPR pressure can be lower, which uses less air and gives less kick, and also means teh bolt hits teh paint much more softly...this is a very good thing. and also its potentially more efficient.
I havent got my hands on one just yet, but I will be shortly.

As for microswitch over optical switch...I pretty much just use teh weight of teh micro switch, rather than any magnet or spring return...I just liek springy triggers.

Which emans, when I used to shoot an E cocker...I had worked blooddy hard to hit 15 bps semi...so...when I pick up a micro switch jobbie, assuming teh trigger si set right...liek a shocker, I can rip it a new arsehole....very fast.
 

Orifice

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Sep 9, 2004
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woah! that does look good :D im liking the matched blue detail on the grip too, sets it off nicely!

i see quite a few people whove got CCU kits and things which dont set off too nicely, but im sure you dont need me to tell ya you hit it right :)

just to clear it up...microswitch? optical switch? guessing ones a magnet and ones a spring?

id probably leave the barrel until after the others, since im only gonna be shooting crap paint while i learn anyway, fastest way to learn is to make mistakes right? :)

does anyone have a lucky valve? whats your opinion on it? does it really work as well as quoted? would it be especially useful in soggy manchester, since all the paint will get frozen? exaggerating ofc :D