Name & shame, I'd like to know which Millennium player felt it necessary to have their gun turned up to 19bps at Freekz
Dressing like girls at tournaments and other stuff.
- Thread starter Russell Smith
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Jeff Abbott - Dye
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I am not saying they do not offer an advantage but i am saying they may not offer the significant advantage that you are claiming. If they did then every Pro team would be using them 100% of the time. Some of the Ironmen don't use them and they have won events and lost events and that rings true for many other teams out there.
As for safety, they do offer protection, you cannot deny that and the "bouncyness" is the bonus as far as I can see. At the end of the day it is down to the user. It is their choice as to what they wear them for. Some for bouncers, some for pain reduction and some for vanity but it is their choice. If they choose to wear for bouncyness and they get shot more then that is the bed that they made and they should lie in it with no complaints.
The biggest point to make about all of this is that we should, as a sport, be seen to be doing everything we can to ensure safety to our players. We should allow players to protect themselves as they see fit. If they want to put on a Sumo suit to play then let them. There is a point where it will become a disadvantage to the player and will not help them win.
keka
As for safety, they do offer protection, you cannot deny that and the "bouncyness" is the bonus as far as I can see. At the end of the day it is down to the user. It is their choice as to what they wear them for. Some for bouncers, some for pain reduction and some for vanity but it is their choice. If they choose to wear for bouncyness and they get shot more then that is the bed that they made and they should lie in it with no complaints.
The biggest point to make about all of this is that we should, as a sport, be seen to be doing everything we can to ensure safety to our players. We should allow players to protect themselves as they see fit. If they want to put on a Sumo suit to play then let them. There is a point where it will become a disadvantage to the player and will not help them win.
keka
Lets stick to the vest issue for the moment.
If you think that they do not offer the advantage I am talking about I guess you will not use one then....
Lets be sensible at this point, everyone knows they promote bouncers and that is because of there construction.
It would be very easy to keep the characteristics they claim they are selling them for and keep the comfort for the user without the other players potentially having to shoot the wearer several times to get a paintball to burst.
Russ
Protection from what! are we saying that a paintball is liable to injure a player?
Reducing the sting in a shot is not a valid reason why they also offer the bounce factor.
They could take the sting out altogether with hard surface armour but you would still feel it, trouble is that may promote breaks......... oh now we know why.....
Nonsense, all it does is keep us further from being a true sport then ever.
Safety is definitely not an issue with these products or a reason for there development.
If they wanted to promote safety they would have reduced the fps and also introduced a ball break test so the quality of the ball was maintained.
Have they ever considered any of those "safety" issues.
Of course not.
Russ
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Jeff Abbott - Dye
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How many people dive into the snake or other bunkers and slide along on their chest?Protection from what! are we saying that a paintball is liable to injure a player?
Reducing the sting in a shot is not a valid reason why they also offer the bounce factor.
They could take the sting out altogether with hard surface armour but you would still feel it, trouble is that may promote breaks......... oh now we know why.....
I consider all the issues Russ.
It appears that you do not.
Think about the players that are not playing a the moment not he old School ballers who had their teeth shot out when it was not mandatory to have a face guard on your goggles. Think about the kids who want to start playing and whose parents are looking into the safety issues. Face plates are now mandatory and for good reason.
You really need to think about what you say before you say it and actually listen to someone else's point of view. It would seem however, that you are not inclined to listen to the points of view of cheating girly ballers with a feline quality...and you run a league, the format of which was designed to encourage and promote paintball!
keka
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Jeff Abbott - Dye
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Use the Millennium rules but ban chest protectors otherwise you rant is just wasting everyones time.
It's your league, so you can do what you want....can't you?
keka
Use the Millennium rules but ban chest protectors otherwise you rant is just wasting everyones time.
It's your league, so you can do what you want....can't you?
keka
TBH like others have said, with regards the PA, its your baby, so dress it how you please ie ban it if you want.
I think the main reason for wearing one and the only reason I would is free bounce.
FWIW ive seen players of all levels with them including current pros, so the market is there.
Having not read all the replies properly, Id say cookie is spot on (how rare!).
I think the main reason for wearing one and the only reason I would is free bounce.
FWIW ive seen players of all levels with them including current pros, so the market is there.
Having not read all the replies properly, Id say cookie is spot on (how rare!).
stick with banning them russ if you beleive in it. Get the captains view on things and agree it with them.
Body Protection Poll
Just going off of Russells thread about Dressing like girls in SYB, thought it should go to Poll.
Just going off of Russells thread about Dressing like girls in SYB, thought it should go to Poll.
Tbh I always thought the chest protectors were for younger players who are not as thick skinned per se as the average older player. Players start at 12 and that's still the age where they fall over and cry at a skinned knee. What are they going to be like being hit by a projectile (or multiple projectiles fired at them at almost 300 feet per second. Sure most of them are every bit as tough as their older counterparts who'd just swear and grunt it off. But mothers are panicky things and aren't liable to let little Johnny play unless he's got as much protection as he's allowed to have. When my son is old enough to play I know that my wife won't let Alexander play unless he's wearing full body kevlar.
For everyone else they are there as an optional extra to save themselves from going home with a body covered in welts. The same as headbands stop us going in to work the next day looking like the creature from Xargon 7 sucked our brain out through our forehead !!
I've just sold my chest protector as I found I get hit everywhere but the chest. I found it didn't help but it did give me a more slimline figure for those all important photo's of the event, and it kept me warm even when the chest protector was soaking wet and it was freezing cold. (In fact its the reason I bought it at UCZ last December as it was freezing cold and chucking it down.)
For everyone else they are there as an optional extra to save themselves from going home with a body covered in welts. The same as headbands stop us going in to work the next day looking like the creature from Xargon 7 sucked our brain out through our forehead !!
I've just sold my chest protector as I found I get hit everywhere but the chest. I found it didn't help but it did give me a more slimline figure for those all important photo's of the event, and it kept me warm even when the chest protector was soaking wet and it was freezing cold. (In fact its the reason I bought it at UCZ last December as it was freezing cold and chucking it down.)