DOT and HSE bottles

[Mark]

Ok here we go again (where's Hotpoint when you need him ...come along you knew this was going to happen )

This thread hasn't had too many of the "I heard" etc in it but enough to muddy the waters.

Plain and simple

DOT for use in this country (by an an englishman) ILLEGAL
DOT for use in this country (by a visiting national) LEGAL


To test the above DOT in this country (regardless of nationality) ILLEGAL

However to sell or own a DOT bottle in this country (by any nationality) is LEGAL

As previously explained a DOT bottle can't swap sides so to speak as the IMBEDDED label will always make it a DOT bottle, so it doesn't matter how you whine winge or whatever you can't have a DOT bottle and still use it unless you are as above.

A senario that could happen however is you buy a used dual tested bottle from someone in the states (when I say used I mean it has been owned long enough to have been retested) obviously the bottle will need a test by HSE standards, there is an outside chance that the bottle will fail as it has been pressure tested to a higher rate than the HSE, but this is unlikely but something to think about

 

[Red_Merkin]

you can buy dual test bottles. I beleve that the bottles on an Angel AIr are dual test, you can call them to find out.

This is a good example of how your government is screwing you about, by having differnet regulations to the rest of the world.

on a side note, the only time anyone has ever checked my bottle was when it was the guys from up north with the Army truck (Diablo cup). So if you had a dot bottle, you could get away with using it pretty much anywhere else.

 

[Sinner]

My understanding of the dual-standard bottles, eg. the one on the AIR, is that once you get the bottle re-tested to a particular standard then that bottle is no longer considered tested to - and can no longer get re-tested to - the other standard.

eg. I have a HSE/DOT AIR bottle and I get it tested to DOT. From that point on it is considered as if it is DOT only. I cannot get it re-tested to HSE and I can no longer use it in the UK if I'm a UK resident.

I'm having Pulp Fiction flashbacks about DOT bottles here:

Jules: "OK, so tell me again about the DOT bottles."
Vincent: "OK, what do you want to know?"
Jules: "Well, DOT is legal over there, right?"
Vincent: "Yeah, it's legal but it ain't hundred percent legal, I mean, if you're a UK resident you can't use them, but you can if your visiting."
Jules: "And those are the DOT bottles?"
Vincent: "Yeah, it breaks down like this, OK, it's legal to buy one, it's legal to own one. And if you're the proprietor of a painball supplier, it's legal to sell one. You just can't use it."

 

[Hotpoint]

Originally posted by Sinner
I'm having Pulp Fiction flashbacks about DOT bottles here:

Jules: "OK, so tell me again about the DOT bottles."
Vincent: "OK, what do you want to know?"
Jules: "Well, DOT is legal over there, right?"
Vincent: "Yeah, it's legal but it ain't hundred percent legal, I mean, if you're a UK resident you can't use them, but you can if your visiting."
Jules: "And those are the DOT bottles?"
Vincent: "Yeah, it breaks down like this, OK, it's legal to buy one, it's legal to own one. And if you're the proprietor of a painball supplier, it's legal to sell one. You just can't use it."

ROFLMAO absolutely brilliant

In France they don't call it a 4500psi bottle they call it 300 bar... because of the metric system


Technicalities aside as a UK resident (note "resident" not "citizen") you can only use HSE or dual Test bottles because filling DOT is commercially illegal AND it will invalidate both your insurance and the sites

If you have a Dual-Test you must have it retested as HSE. Test it as DOT and it becomes DOT only because they test to a higher pressure beyond that permitted for HSE

There is no problem using HSE in DOT countries anyway as they appear to recognise our test even if we don't recognise theirs

If there are any questions please post them here and I'll do my best to answer them

 

[Sinner]

Originally posted by Hotpoint

In France they don't call it a 4500psi bottle they call it 300 bar... because of the metric system

"300bar? Ahhh, so what do they call a CO2 bottle?"
"I dunno, I don't use a Shocker."

That's it no more... unless I can work out something for the Gimp scene.