I posted this on another board I frequent, but I wanted to get the mostly tournament-style player Euro-opnion.
The short :
If a player has a barrel plug, barrel condom, barrel bag, or any barrel blocking device affixed to the barrel of the gun, AND is standing on the fringe of the field of play, are they eliminated? What does "Common Sense" dictate?
The long :
Ok, there's a story here. I'm hovering on the fringe of exhaustion, which is arguably when I write the most intresting work. Played paintball today at a "Scenario" game, and a situation happened that confused me. I'm asking for a bit of input here, and a dose of what constitutes "Common sense" in this situation.
See, the rule sheet of the day had, in bold letters in a profile in black and white, the words "Please use commmon sense in playing paintball." Mind you, this rule sheet also said to draw a smiley face on the corner and not to fish in the watering hole on the field. So that's why I keep going back to common sense.
It was the last game I played in the scenario. I usually distain scenarios, but I'm making an exception because they haven't burned me yet. And, besides, their scenrio game means that they open up the whole field and I get to use skills I haven't touched in years. The lone stalk, the one shot bingo, and the patience to shoot 3 guys who jumped into the same cover one after the other after the other like one of those carny duck games.
So, anyhow, last scenario I played in. We have to travel from the far end of the field to the close end, and exit out the gate with an item. Ok, that's cool. Instead of making my "Grand flank" like I had been all day I figured I'd do the "Hey-diddle-diddle Straight up the middle" routine with everyone else. They blow the horn, we hit the "Speedball" field with the other team, and we're shooting it out.
After I make my first bunker I realise three things are conspiring in my favor.
1 : I was, dare I say it, "en fuego". I was amped. I was dialed. I was in the zone. I was THERE!
2 : I knew that I was not going to be eliminated. I knew everything would bounce. I just did.
3 : I realised that I was the catalist for my team. All I needed to do was the right coaxing, the right moves, the right shots, and we would win. It sounds egotistical until you do it yourself.
That being said, I made my first bunker. I went into full "@sshole" mode too. Most tourney guys will yell 'check it' with every shot. I do it when I see paint beak. And this game, it was like a mouse. Point and click. *BAM* "CHEK YER MELON BLONDIE!" *BAM*BAM* "CHECK YER FACE!" *BAM* "YOU'RE HIT IN THE BARREL!" *BAM*BAM*BAM* "AND your HOPPER AND your HAND! GET OFF MY FIELD!" *BAM* "STICK THAT FOOT OUT AGAIN and I'll BLOW IT OFF!" Point, click, eliminate. One man wrecking crew. One guy I shot, I told him to check his goggles, he yelled "I'M HIT FUC<ER!" I just yelled back "THANK YOU! LEAVE!"
One guy I torched, and I mean I torched him, was the other team general. See, generals aren't worth points to shoot, but since they really can't leave the game (by the rules) they're only "frozen" for 2 minutes when you shoot them. This general had already banzaied me earlier in the day by just 'waiting' for his 2 minutes then shooting me. So I wasn't going to let him have it easy. I saw him move, and put a string of 20 on him. Good grouping, I think 7-10 got him. He saw me with my barrel staring him down, he decided to retreat instead of just waiting. This becomes somewhat important.
Anyhow, we clear the speedball field. The blue team backdoors us using this 'land bridge'. Most of my guys turn around to shoot, but we need to go forward. After yelling at them to keep an eye backwards, but we have a mission forwards (And hearing a collective "DING" as they all got it...) they all helped the forward push.
At this point elimiated blue and red players are littering the main trail, some have plugs in, some don't. One is letting a referee shoot his gun, one is shooting at another target, just a bunch of guys standing around eliminated. Ok, fine. Seen it before. I look at the dead players target shooting on the field and say "Mind if I flank this way?" They say "sure", and I do.
One wide flank later, I'm paralell to enemy lines. The general is there with someoene else. BOTH have their "Barrel Condoms" on their guns. Ok, cool. I do some really killer moves to get close to the one I'm trying to shoot.
Suddenly I take a knee to the shoulder, and I'm knocked over from an impact as this player, who removed the barrel condom from his gun, runs OVER me, screams "RAMBO! YER DEAD!" and runs PAST me. I try to roll with it, mostly on instinct, not really sure what the hell just happened.
I get my bearings, and the guy who just knocked me over has his barrel condom BACK on his gun, and is getting back slaps from the general (Same general I torched). The general says "GOOD MOVE!"
I sat there in disbelief, because barrel plugged means "Dead player". I approached this player after the game, and he told me "Well, I didn't have my gun in the air, I wasn't dead."
I consult the rules, there's no procedure for leaving the field OTHER than to put your gun in the air. Mind you, nobody heeded this rule all day. The head ref for the event tried to explain to me that since nobody uses barrel plugs in rentals (They deposit plugs in a bucket in the goggles on area), and since "Most" of the regulars have barrel bags that are "So grimy" that you can't tell if they're in or not, that anyone who doesn't hold their gun in the air is "Fair game".
I argued that the player I was talking about had his barrel bag on, and that denotes being out. This guy, the writer of the rules, the guy who's JOB it was to make sure it all ran smoothly, says to me with a STRAIGHT FACE "Well, maybe he wanted to keep his barrel clean?" HUH!?!?!? The player in question plays tournament paintball, with the commander of the blue team.
Oh, I should mention this too. Earlier in the game I almost torched 20 players walking onto the field. None of them had guns in the air. I was nice, I asked if they were live or not, 3 times, and finally got an answer from the referee (In a black jersey) who said "Yeah, they're all dead."
So, this presents me back to the beginning. The rule sheet said to exersize "Common Sense". My wife is apt to remind me that common sense is really not that common anymore. So if I were to exersize "Common sense", does that not dictate that a plug in the gun means the player is eliminated?
My wife also says that stupidity is an art form...
Just askin.
-Tyger
The short :
If a player has a barrel plug, barrel condom, barrel bag, or any barrel blocking device affixed to the barrel of the gun, AND is standing on the fringe of the field of play, are they eliminated? What does "Common Sense" dictate?
The long :
Ok, there's a story here. I'm hovering on the fringe of exhaustion, which is arguably when I write the most intresting work. Played paintball today at a "Scenario" game, and a situation happened that confused me. I'm asking for a bit of input here, and a dose of what constitutes "Common sense" in this situation.
See, the rule sheet of the day had, in bold letters in a profile in black and white, the words "Please use commmon sense in playing paintball." Mind you, this rule sheet also said to draw a smiley face on the corner and not to fish in the watering hole on the field. So that's why I keep going back to common sense.
It was the last game I played in the scenario. I usually distain scenarios, but I'm making an exception because they haven't burned me yet. And, besides, their scenrio game means that they open up the whole field and I get to use skills I haven't touched in years. The lone stalk, the one shot bingo, and the patience to shoot 3 guys who jumped into the same cover one after the other after the other like one of those carny duck games.
So, anyhow, last scenario I played in. We have to travel from the far end of the field to the close end, and exit out the gate with an item. Ok, that's cool. Instead of making my "Grand flank" like I had been all day I figured I'd do the "Hey-diddle-diddle Straight up the middle" routine with everyone else. They blow the horn, we hit the "Speedball" field with the other team, and we're shooting it out.
After I make my first bunker I realise three things are conspiring in my favor.
1 : I was, dare I say it, "en fuego". I was amped. I was dialed. I was in the zone. I was THERE!
2 : I knew that I was not going to be eliminated. I knew everything would bounce. I just did.
3 : I realised that I was the catalist for my team. All I needed to do was the right coaxing, the right moves, the right shots, and we would win. It sounds egotistical until you do it yourself.
That being said, I made my first bunker. I went into full "@sshole" mode too. Most tourney guys will yell 'check it' with every shot. I do it when I see paint beak. And this game, it was like a mouse. Point and click. *BAM* "CHEK YER MELON BLONDIE!" *BAM*BAM* "CHECK YER FACE!" *BAM* "YOU'RE HIT IN THE BARREL!" *BAM*BAM*BAM* "AND your HOPPER AND your HAND! GET OFF MY FIELD!" *BAM* "STICK THAT FOOT OUT AGAIN and I'll BLOW IT OFF!" Point, click, eliminate. One man wrecking crew. One guy I shot, I told him to check his goggles, he yelled "I'M HIT FUC<ER!" I just yelled back "THANK YOU! LEAVE!"
One guy I torched, and I mean I torched him, was the other team general. See, generals aren't worth points to shoot, but since they really can't leave the game (by the rules) they're only "frozen" for 2 minutes when you shoot them. This general had already banzaied me earlier in the day by just 'waiting' for his 2 minutes then shooting me. So I wasn't going to let him have it easy. I saw him move, and put a string of 20 on him. Good grouping, I think 7-10 got him. He saw me with my barrel staring him down, he decided to retreat instead of just waiting. This becomes somewhat important.
Anyhow, we clear the speedball field. The blue team backdoors us using this 'land bridge'. Most of my guys turn around to shoot, but we need to go forward. After yelling at them to keep an eye backwards, but we have a mission forwards (And hearing a collective "DING" as they all got it...) they all helped the forward push.
At this point elimiated blue and red players are littering the main trail, some have plugs in, some don't. One is letting a referee shoot his gun, one is shooting at another target, just a bunch of guys standing around eliminated. Ok, fine. Seen it before. I look at the dead players target shooting on the field and say "Mind if I flank this way?" They say "sure", and I do.
One wide flank later, I'm paralell to enemy lines. The general is there with someoene else. BOTH have their "Barrel Condoms" on their guns. Ok, cool. I do some really killer moves to get close to the one I'm trying to shoot.
Suddenly I take a knee to the shoulder, and I'm knocked over from an impact as this player, who removed the barrel condom from his gun, runs OVER me, screams "RAMBO! YER DEAD!" and runs PAST me. I try to roll with it, mostly on instinct, not really sure what the hell just happened.
I get my bearings, and the guy who just knocked me over has his barrel condom BACK on his gun, and is getting back slaps from the general (Same general I torched). The general says "GOOD MOVE!"
I sat there in disbelief, because barrel plugged means "Dead player". I approached this player after the game, and he told me "Well, I didn't have my gun in the air, I wasn't dead."
I consult the rules, there's no procedure for leaving the field OTHER than to put your gun in the air. Mind you, nobody heeded this rule all day. The head ref for the event tried to explain to me that since nobody uses barrel plugs in rentals (They deposit plugs in a bucket in the goggles on area), and since "Most" of the regulars have barrel bags that are "So grimy" that you can't tell if they're in or not, that anyone who doesn't hold their gun in the air is "Fair game".
I argued that the player I was talking about had his barrel bag on, and that denotes being out. This guy, the writer of the rules, the guy who's JOB it was to make sure it all ran smoothly, says to me with a STRAIGHT FACE "Well, maybe he wanted to keep his barrel clean?" HUH!?!?!? The player in question plays tournament paintball, with the commander of the blue team.
Oh, I should mention this too. Earlier in the game I almost torched 20 players walking onto the field. None of them had guns in the air. I was nice, I asked if they were live or not, 3 times, and finally got an answer from the referee (In a black jersey) who said "Yeah, they're all dead."
So, this presents me back to the beginning. The rule sheet said to exersize "Common Sense". My wife is apt to remind me that common sense is really not that common anymore. So if I were to exersize "Common sense", does that not dictate that a plug in the gun means the player is eliminated?
My wife also says that stupidity is an art form...
Just askin.
-Tyger
