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stongle

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Originally posted by Ben Frain
The other thing I really like about the Dye markers is the way they cover the eyes (ribbons, rubber covers etc) so they are virtually invisible from outside the body.

It looks awesome but if livestock sacrificing really is the order of the day for hassle free hunting I don't think I would risk getting one. Reliability has always factored highest for me...
To be fair to Dye, I don't think it's a reliability issue, it's the high maintenance and care required to run one. When I first played with you guys and used the Dm4 it absolutely ripped all day, without a single hitch. It then went onto play for another team for another 10 games, all in the same day, without seeing an Allen key or adjustment once. that's pretty impressive in my mind. The problem comes when your not technically adept (me), and have to lube the bolt (looks like something that should be in orbit), and replace o-rings. It may as well work by magic.

Aesthetically it's a bit edgier than the old one isn't it, but is it going to be different enough to make people upgrade especially if it shoots the same as the Dm4???
 

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Originally posted by stongle
Aesthetically it's a bit edgier than the old one isn't it, but is it going to be different enough to make people upgrade especially if it shoots the same as the Dm4???
Doubt the lack of internal differences are enough the stop the majority of PBN kidz from asking their parents to buy them a DM5 to replace their DM4......i wonder if the cheat chips will work in the new model?
 

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Stongle - Ah, this is where the reliability thing bothers me, as what you describe above as 'impressive' (playing 20 games with no maintenance) would be what I would expect to be the very least a marker should achieve reliability wise.

I just have a thing against having to lube markers. I think they should be designed so that you just don't have to touch them for month to month running.

One of the lads on our team literally hasn't touched his Angel LCD for 2.5 years except to re-chrono when we moved to smaller bore paint. That includes MM, MPANL and Millennium events...

I think the DM5 looks 'harder' and less feminine than a DM4 and it's one of the best designs aesthetically seen for a long time. I also love the sound signature they have but I just couldn't put up with that much technical baby sitting :(
 

stongle

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Originally posted by Ben Frain
Stongle - Ah, this is where the reliability thing bothers me, as what you describe above as 'impressive' (playing 20 games with no maintenance) would be what I would expect to be the very least a marker should achieve reliability wise.
That is a fair point, but I do shoot a LOT of bullets :D

I think the closer you set-up the market to rthe "edge" the greater the adjustment and config you require, and since i was running the 4 as close as possible to the edge, I do still think it was good, especially for a high maintenance marker. Obviously this is where the Angels score very high.

Thinking about one, but Lord Flash (of Planet), does not let me near anything I can break just by looking at it. :rolleyes:
 

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I guess i'm the only one that prfers the look of the DM4 then :(

The 5 looks like it's hunchbacked twin, don't like that front lump.

As for maintenence, I always found that once you get used to doing the lube on a matrix it's an easy job..2 or 3 minutes and bam, ready to go again...
 

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The board is not the only differance, the fuse bolt has been made shorter so that the feedneck can be moved back. It is also supposed to help the gas efficiency too. Also, the trigger is a roller bearing type.

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