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Manning26

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by cjohns
Jason- How about making me a copy of that. I would like to see it and save it in my archives. Thanks bro.
Hold on, Honkey-pants, I've got to get a copy from my teammate.

Originally posted by cjohns
The thing that cracks me up about my team, is that we play freaking awesome against the good teams and beat most of them, and then we lose to scrubs. Odd very odd.
Man, that IS funny... ha, ha..... huh.......
 

Baca Loco

Ex-Fun Police
Originally posted by Manning26
A--The event was a notch under Vegas. I hate to write everything here since Pete and Paul were already covering it... so maybe I'll just write about a couple things;) ...

The good:
B--1. I felt the reffing was better than Vegas, the ref's seemed to be using more common sense regarding one for one's, and they were, as usual, hustling in and out for calls.

The bad:
C--1. I think I was in the minority as far as my opinin of the reffing, and you did still have to get the field rules from the starting judge as the rules changed depending on which field you were playing.
D--2. They ran out of friggin' fruit by Saturday.

The ugly:
E--1. I know of atleast two games where a team hung their own flag on the opposition's flag station. One of those was after the guy pulled a quality dead-man's-walk.
F--2. The most obvious, the screw-up knocking Nexus out of finals.

G--No, I don't consider this a step forward for the series, although I bet NY will set things straight.

Not to be defeatist or anything, but I'm thinking it wouldn't do a lot of good.
A--heck, 26, say whatever you think. More info the peeps get the better for everyone. They can make up their own minds. I mean, who they gonna believe, me or you? ;) :) I actually rate Chicago as a better tournament than Vegas. Vegas was a better environment than South Chicago is all. Read all about it soon in a PGI near you. :D
B--they also were better prepared. Zones have been re-considered and the refs were. for the most part, very active. We also got nearly identical instructions at every field for game starts and procedures before and after games were consistent. All positive improvements.
C--only change on any field we played, and we played all 5, was JT and Chronic field refs, I think, let you start blazin' before you completely crossed back line as long as you were moving forward. Otherwise all instructions we received were identical.
Most of complaints I heard were about heavy handed 1-4-1's again but I didn't see an unwarranted 1-4-1 call made though I saw lots of calls disputed. All fields except Chronic were giving players a bit of leeway on strict interpretation but Chronic field was completely black and white calls that weren't contrary to rules but not what most tourney players are used to. As usual the odd missed call, the bit of extra love given the pros---on NPPL field when wet it was very difficult to break to first zipper bunker on show wire without sliding along way, frequently dragging a foot out of bounds--never saw a pro called for it but saw a few lesser mortals pulled for hanging a toe or two over the tape; but overall, the process has been improved to minimize those things and standardize field to field order.
D--fruit, they had fruit? All I found were the empty boxes. Without fruit why do we need extra port-o-johns? Relax, being facetious. 'Kay?
E--Oops
F--leaving this one alone
G--if the basic concern is about the tourney--then this one was the best; best organized, best run, most orderly and consistent effort to date. Not the coolest place on earth and the weather didn't help but if it's first and foremost about playin' the game--no complaints. And that's a first for me. Well, there was this one thing . . .

As to the video--no surprise there. The aggressor almost always gets the benefit of ref placement and the faster things happen, and the more things that happen, the harder it is to sort out what exactly happened when. The most difficult situation in tourney paintball--still.
 

Manning26

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Baca Loco
A--heck, 26, say whatever you think. More info the peeps get the better for everyone. They can make up their own minds. I mean, who they gonna believe, me or you? ;) :) I actually rate Chicago as a better tournament than Vegas. Vegas was a better environment than South Chicago is all. Read all about it soon in a PGI near you. :D
B--they also were better prepared. Zones have been re-considered and the refs were. for the most part, very active. We also got nearly identical instructions at every field for game starts and procedures before and after games were consistent. All positive improvements.
C--only change on any field we played, and we played all 5, was JT and Chronic field refs, I think, let you start blazin' before you completely crossed back line as long as you were moving forward. Otherwise all instructions we received were identical.
Most of complaints I heard were about heavy handed 1-4-1's again but I didn't see an unwarranted 1-4-1 call made though I saw lots of calls disputed. All fields except Chronic were giving players a bit of leeway on strict interpretation but Chronic field was completely black and white calls that weren't contrary to rules but not what most tourney players are used to. As usual the odd missed call, the bit of extra love given the pros---on NPPL field when wet it was very difficult to break to first zipper bunker on show wire without sliding along way, frequently dragging a foot out of bounds--never saw a pro called for it but saw a few lesser mortals pulled for hanging a toe or two over the tape; but overall, the process has been improved to minimize those things and standardize field to field order.
D--fruit, they had fruit? All I found were the empty boxes. Without fruit why do we need extra port-o-johns? Relax, being facetious. 'Kay?
E--Oops
F--leaving this one alone
G--if the basic concern is about the tourney--then this one was the best; best organized, best run, most orderly and consistent effort to date. Not the coolest place on earth and the weather didn't help but if it's first and foremost about playin' the game--no complaints. And that's a first for me. Well, there was this one thing . . .

As to the video--no surprise there. The aggressor almost always gets the benefit of ref placement and the faster things happen, and the more things that happen, the harder it is to sort out what exactly happened when. The most difficult situation in tourney paintball--still.
A-- I agree, tournament-wise, Chicago was better, but the overall vibe was down... and me bein' the sensitive guy I am, that's what got me. Still a good time though.
B-- Agreed
C-- Yeah, I lost one of my back guys on one of the fields because he was shooting before crossing the line... something that had been acceptable on other fields. I also heard people goin' on about crazy one for one's, but didn't witness any myself. And yes, the pro's got to bend the boundaries more than a few times.:)
D-- Someone needs to kick KAPP in the kiester for not keeping up with the amenities.
E-- Too bad you missed it, it was class.
F-- Wuss.
G-- Agreed.

Well, on this video, it's really not a quick, hard to sort out kind of deal. He goes in, gun down, turns his head (displaying paint on his gog's), spots the guys in the fifty, raises his gun, and pops off one shot. All the while the refs are scrambling in to pull him. It's a deliberate move. That's all the video shows.