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JPeck

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I can see your point but i think at first the s***bags would be scared off but they would just come bk with more people and laugh at you when fire a ball at them and they just get a bit of paint on them, there are alots lot of better things you could use to defend yourself, but must say personally I would run, yeh it's seen as a chickens way out but things can be replaced people can't.
 
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the riots are over now but yes if there was a riot going on outside my house and i had a paintball gun i dont right now im geting around to buying one i would gas it up and get ready if anyone tries to break in open the door and tell them to **** of if they dont shoot them i have no tolerance for the scum that infest this country the scik moraly bankrupt vermin the .....chavs
 

Tom

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Do what you like to defend yourself but there is no right to use a 'self defence weapon'

If children have access to your home then it is now an offence to not secure paintball markers, which takes away most defences for having a marker aired up and loaded

Mentioning your intent in public such as on a forum can be used against you as premeditated and therefore not defence with what was to hand

Contrary to political statements and the Daily Mail etc there have been no real changes to self defence laws. You have the right to defend yourself with reasonable force. You do not have he right to assault trespassers or attackers with more than reasonable force or to carry or have items/weapons with the intent to defend

Quite a while back we had a lot of pepper spray like products being marketed for women for anti rape. These went away and are replaced by rape alarms. However if a lady pulls her hairspray out and sprays an attacker in the face it is just self defence with something she normally carries

Talk is big but be sensible. Don't plan on setting yourself up in court being prosecuted for assaulting some chav who breaks into your house
 

Skeet

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Do what you like to defend yourself but there is no right to use a 'self defence weapon'

If children have access to your home then it is now an offence to not secure paintball markers, which takes away most defences for having a marker aired up and loaded

Mentioning your intent in public such as on a forum can be used against you as premeditated and therefore not defence with what was to hand

Contrary to political statements and the Daily Mail etc there have been no real changes to self defence laws. You have the right to defend yourself with reasonable force. You do not have he right to assault trespassers or attackers with more than reasonable force or to carry or have items/weapons with the intent to defend

Quite a while back we had a lot of pepper spray like products being marketed for women for anti rape. These went away and are replaced by rape alarms. However if a lady pulls her hairspray out and sprays an attacker in the face it is just self defence with something she normally carries

Talk is big but be sensible. Don't plan on setting yourself up in court being prosecuted for assaulting some chav who breaks into your house
I'm pretty much down with what you have said. Something like that Shield/Table/Bat thing up there would be classed under "made, adapted or intended" so probably no good to us in the UK.

The section in Bold, though is not true of Markers. True of an Air Weapon, yes but not of a Marker.

HO Guidelines (and I have them here) define Firearms, define Air Weapons, defines when an Air Weapon becomes a Firearm and states what either may or may not be permitted to do. All air weapons are Firearms and a Firearm is defined as "lethal barrelled", that is to say that it is designed to be a weapon, and fire a projectile that is designed to cause a penetrating injury. Markers were never designed to be a weapon, fire frangible ammunition and don't cause penetrating injuries. Worst case scenario, is from Scenario players who may have a marker that could be described as an Imitation Firearm...if used inappropriately. The Guidelines also go on to state that markers (used in "adventure games") should not be considered as Firearms.

The UKPSF site states much of this, but then oddly goes on to suggest that Markers that fired more than 300 fps would require a licence. I am sure the UKPSF realise this isn't quite true, but on such a Public site and for the benefit of the Sport etc, is probably right to err on the side of caution.

If a Marker was an Airweapon, there would be no ramping. < Period.

No firearm is permitted to fire more than one shot per cycle (pull of the trigger), which means no Air Weapon can either. Ramping is a form of Full Auto and so as such, FA modes are also legal. I am ignoring Airsoft, but same applies to them...but they fire at less than 1 Joule, but do not have frangible ammunition...and...also have the Imitation Firearm cloud looming over them.

Point being...you should not keep your marker away from children because the Law requires it...but you should do it from common sense.

Should the circumstances be right and you fired upon an attacker, within your home (well within), you would not be attacking them with an airweapon or firearm. But you would need to consider reasonable force...as always.
If you drilled an attacker, perhaps on your stairs...and he turn and ran away...you stop. Your legal.
If you drilled an attacker, perhaps on your stairs...and then stopped shooting when he was within reach and kicked his dazed and confused ass, down the stairs and threw him out of the door...and closed it. Your legal.
If you drilled an attacker, perhaps on your stairs...and went for his eyes, then drilled his face while he lay screaming, then drilled him in the mouth...barrel in the mouth...then beat the living poop out of him with the bottle...then dragged him outside...then beat him some more....your ass is grass.

I have some fun toys that I have on Licence. Can I access them quickly? Nope, not as quick as any number of blunt or bladed objects that most people have in their house. If however, someone was attacking my house, with similar toys....I could could acquire mine and defend myself and it would still be reasonable.
 
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no-infernomark

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two words "reasonable force". You exceed this and you will be in the dock. Regardless of the situation if you hold a weapon in your hand you become the aggressor.
aahhh Mr Allen, reasonable force is proportionate to the circumstances, if you was a massive 6'6 monster and was built like a brick poo poo house and some tiny ferrell rat of a man came into your house you would be hard pressed to justify using a paint ball gun, HOWEVER, if it was the other way round, the proportions of the situation alter and should the ferrell rat of a man pick up a paint ball gun and shoot the monster of a man, the judge would be hard pressed to convict due to the proportionality of the situation. :)
 

weihrauch hw

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i live in a three story house, i have my paint ball gun under my bed, and my hopper and air at the other side of the room, by the time they could get to me, i would have a hopper full of paint on there balls.