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Dark Timmy vs. A4 fly

H

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Feb 27, 2002
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EDIT: Whoopsie, wrong window

Right anyway.... Essentially they are both almost identical specification but personally i would recommend the Fly. From what i have gathered its build quality is second to none (well, maybe Planet :p) and rarely ever goes wrong. And if it does go wrong then there is a lot of officially trained techs out there who'd be able to help you out.

See which one you prefer to shoot and which you think you'd get on with more, plus of course which one you think looks the coolest. As I said, I'd get the Fly...if nothing else it's because it's English :D
 

speedbird_666

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Feb 1, 2003
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Hey Frans,

I thought you had your heart set on an Alias? :D

I'd say Fly for all the reasons above, but if you want raw firepower, then you may be better off with an Alias.

Like you've said to me before, down to personal preferance.

Be cool.
 

H

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I dunno about the raw firepower thing...... There is no reason why an Alias should be faster than Fly.... You can mess around with the DeBounce just the same on the Fly as you can on an Alias if you want a cheaty sod gun. A lot of the time ROF comes down to how comfortable each individual is with the trigger set-up on any given gun.
 

dr.strangelove

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All the markers these days have uncapped (or equivelant, faster than you can shoot anyway) boards and anti chop, so if there's a ball in the breach, they'll fire as fast as you can pull the trigger, so you're basically down to how fast the marker is physically capable of cycling, which in any case is faster than you can fire it. So no one marker really has more "raw firepower" than another. Timmy's aren't faster than Angels (or Vikings, or Bushy's, or...), no matter how Bob Long and the PBnation kids wish they were, so go with the marker that's built with the best quality, and that feels right. If it were me, I'd pick the Fly, because WDP builds higher quality stuff than Bob Long (personally, drilled air passages, built-in LPR, milled out solenoid housing, etc, seem a little more sturdy than a solenoid tacked onto the bottom of a Spyder body with hoses and barbs carrying air to the noid from the reg stuck onto the front). Just my personal opinion.
 

speedbird_666

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I think that I used the 'raw speed' phrase incorrectly. I think that Timmys triggers are exceptionally easy to shoot fast especially with the likes of Techna and Critical aftermarket ones, and it could be argued that the subjective feel is better than that of an Angel Fly. It is a subjective thing, but people, including Frans/Dunerat above have said to me that they can shoot the Timmy significantly faster than a Fly.

When it comes to the mechanics of the gun, the Angel is superior in almost every sense but again it comes down to the subjective feel of the gun and preference

But it also should be noted that the Timmy/Alias is a proven platform that performs at the very top end of the performance spectrum, despite it's Spyder origins. I agree that the engineering could almost be described as 'agricultural' even 'belt and braces', but there is no denying how well it works, when it works;)

For me, I think that the Fly offers the best all-round package if you factor the spares availability, reliability and tech support of the gun. I think that is an area that is largely ignored by some in their quest to be like the SoCal kids:D

Just my thoughts on the matter...
 

Dunerat

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Thanks guys, but all I am really interested in is the pros and cons on both these markers. I have tried both and found the A4 very dificult to shoot a quick stream out of as with the timmy i didnt, can anyone explain this or is it just down to how i shoot?