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got my new issue of PGI today. Never miss the rag, and always read every article in it from start to finish, but enough of the smoke blowing. I get to Paul 'Baca Loco' Richards article, SCI-FI: Why you should never admit that you play in scenario games... . The name alone stopped me, as I do play in big and scenario games, as well as some local tournaments. It started out pretty good, as it was more of remiiniscing of games gone by, and go back to his local field. All well in good, but it down grades from there.

Basically, the entire article trashes the largest segment of paintball. He puts down, the promotors, the players, everyone invovled with the sport not using air bunkers. It seems that if you aren't at a tounrament, in netted areas in stadiums, then you are nothing in Paul Richards eyes.

PR: (talking about scenerio games) "Once the game starts they are so anxious there often exists a near pathological disregard for anything and anyone that gets in their way, and would, in the real world, lead to a Sam Peckinpah-esque massacre if the projectiles involved were anything but paint-filled gelcaps. Hear a branch snap? Fire at will."

Reading this, I get the feeling that Paul had went to the field with all good intentions but was ambushed or was shot by friendly fire as he was doing something by some kid that shouldn't have been their, by Paul's account. But couldn't you also use that colourful account to the start of ANY speedball type game? Yes, it is an opinion, and there is those people that do do it as stated by Paul, but to say everyone at every event like this, at every field? Isn't that like saying that every tourney player is a loud-mouth, ignorant juevinile that would cuss you out, instead of saying excuse me? But that's me...

PR: "Scenario teams whose members are identified by their custom matching T-shirt with nicknames like, 'Booger', Stone Cold', and 'Super Dave'. To the aging guys with golf-ball sized wads of Redman stuffed in their lower lips and faded tattoos who wheren't allowed to strap on their black anodized survival knifes to their thighs. And the smaller-than-you-think clique of combat-would-so-cool dipsticks living the dream while applying camo greasepaint to their faces with custom CAR-15 replica marers tucked in the crook of their arm. Along with the pseudo-tourney dorks wearing the latest stylin' fashions, clean and pressed, but can't figure out how to load a hopper or turn on their supergun."

First off, i did write this word for word, as proper English of the plural of knife is knives. If you see the article, look for yourself. I tell no lies on this quote, but i diegress. But the quote is from a man, that in the header to this article is known as Paul 'Baca Loco' Richards. Pretty freaking hypocritical if you ask me. But what of the other players, according to your unwriten opinion are "proper" players like, Rich "Franchise" Telford(which appears in the last article-Pro Gear, in his jersey plan to see). But I will also, say that I would call Rob Rubin, "Tyger", before using his first name, out of respect and as that is what he is known as, world wide.

But to my limited knowledge as I haven't been in the sport as long as some others, is that I have never seen anyone of Paul's discription. Yes, I know there have been players like this, just as there are the same type of people that are into D&D, Everquest, video games, but that is a small precentage that I wouldn't ever begin to say is the norm for genre. And though there is a market of mil-sim players, I don't care for them personally, but to say that they are dipsticks and all are wanna-be para-military fanatics? Someone please have Paul get his head from out of his ass. To each his or her own way. If you like the look of a mil-simed 98 or spyder or Mag, more power to you. its not my cup of tea, but I wouldn't put anyone down that likes them.

Though, Paul has remained clearly and consistantly direct in this article, of his opinion of scenario and big games. And though I can almost agree with that last sentence about the wanna-be tournament player in the woods, I do believe that Paul would rather have him sheltered in a more suitable setting, the speedball world. But also I do believe that a magazine not unlike this one, where the article was written in, is partly responsible for outfitting said youth with his hopper or supergun that he/she can't turn on. But what do I know, I don't write with a super inflated ego.

And the final quote. PR:"The one thing they all share in common is an unwillingness to actually leave the game when hit. Not suggesting that cheating is rampant. That would imply that the rules remain in effect, even when large numbers attempt to circumvent them. The usual standard is the rules are only in effect as long as a referee can see you."

Wow, isn't this the most common impression of tournaments, but with more crying? Yes, that is too harsh as people and teams have gone through games without cheating. But when you have some people that not only cheat, but blatantly and stylishly cheat(Markus Nielson and Chris Lasoya) and have nothing done to them on any level and even openly display this and have nothing happen to them(I may be wrong on this). Now, I have seen blatant cheating and in the woods, it sometimes are cases of "I shot to him and there is no way I could have missed him.", but might not have hit the target. We don't know, but I would think that if there is an obvious hit then that player should be honest and take themselves out. I've had hits where the ref saw but didn't take me out, and other times I had to point out the hit to the ref.

And yes, I know that this is one opinion of one person, but his righteous indignation is an afront to the sport that he, we belong to. I know that not everyone loves all aspects of paintball, but shouldn't someone have some cosideration of the entire public. Atleast when Robbo writes about something, he clearly states that it is his opinion and I respect him for that. Paul does no such thing, taking his article as a mantra for all that read it, to adore to and all that he talks about to repent and go to the light. I'm sorry, I can deal with arrogence, but not an egotistic, arrogant *******.

so, on word from Manike, I have posted this, as I can now speak with the source of this article. I do welcome the descussion.

Nobody
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Buddha 3

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Boo frikkin hoo

Originally posted by Nobody
...as proper English of the plural of knife is knives.
Here's a tip: Don't slant someone for the way he spelled a word, if your own spelling of what I can only presume to be your native tongue is horrifying. It tends to counter whatever point you may have.

As for the rest of your post, your points would have been valid, were it not for the fact that Paul so clearly does nothing but state his opinion rather than facts in the articles he writes for PGI. Also, if you look back at the articles Paul has written in the past, you would find that he has badmouthed the world of tournament paintball almost constantly. It's what he does. It's called sarcasm. I suggest you have another chat with Manike, who, being English, should be able to teach you the finer points of sarcasm, as the British are quite famous for it.

Chill out dude. Paul takes potshots at everybody. Including himself. Why do you think his column is named "view from the deadbox"?

Peace.
 

rancid

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Nobody used to read my articles

Originally posted by Buddha 3

Chill out dude. Paul takes potshots at everybody. Including himself. Why do you think his column is named "view from the deadbox"?

Peace.
Stop defending him, he's a right *******.

Then again, I'd be delighted with this response to summat I'd written.
 

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You were doing well right up until the point where you completely slaughtered and disembowelled the english language and were a complete hypocrite.

I have come to the conclusion that you were at the back of the class when sarcasm was explained. Please, atleast if you're going to have a 'rant' at someone then have the decency to make sure what you're saying is well reasoned and non-hypocritical.

Personally, I like to take the "don't knock it 'til you've tried it" approach - I just love anything with guns :D
 

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Buddha 3: the focus on "knifes" was not a slam on the author, since I had qouted his article, word for word in my post, i wanted to let people know that it was not I how mispelled the word. i blame the editor on this one, but what do i know, i seemed to miss the sarcasm in that.

though, he's articles or the style is nothing but his own. yes, "view from the dead box" is his own view on anything and everything. maybe i missed the unwritten rule that he could trash an entire aspect of paintball without stating that it is his opinion. i did write that, i know its his opinion, but i still have a problem with it. sorry, for not going along with someone that is just a bit famous. i obviously don't know what i am talking about.

there, is that enough sarcasm for you, or would you like me to write more?

Dr_Chris: how was i a complete hypocrit? i do believe that i have said that i play both types, woods ball and tourney style. i am by no means an expert, but i certainly won't call Paul one. i have tried it, and i don't knock it. i have my opinion, i do express it, but i am not the one, beating the drum trying to get people away from the evil affliction of paintball called, woodsball.

and i am stating what i don't care for from the article itself, which happens to be the whole thing. and though, i do except any and all takes on what i have to say, i am really waiting for the author to respond. since he obviously knows how to write something that is so non-hypocritical.

Nobody
 

Baca Loco

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Originally posted by Nobody
1--got my new issue of PGI today. Never miss the rag, and always read every article in it from start to finish, but enough of the smoke blowing. I get to Paul 'Baca Loco' Richards article, SCI-FI: Why you should never admit that you play in scenario games... . The name alone stopped me, as I do play in big and scenario games, as well as some local tournaments. It started out pretty good, as it was more of remiiniscing of games gone by, and go back to his local field. All well in good, but it down grades from there.

2--Basically, the entire article trashes the largest segment of paintball. He puts down, the promotors, the players, everyone invovled with the sport not using air bunkers. It seems that if you aren't at a tounrament, in netted areas in stadiums, then you are nothing in Paul Richards eyes.

3--PR: (talking about scenerio games) "Once the game starts they are so anxious there often exists a near pathological disregard for anything and anyone that gets in their way, and would, in the real world, lead to a Sam Peckinpah-esque massacre if the projectiles involved were anything but paint-filled gelcaps. Hear a branch snap? Fire at will."

4--Reading this, I get the feeling that Paul had went to the field with all good intentions but was ambushed or was shot by friendly fire as he was doing something by some kid that shouldn't have been their, by Paul's account. But couldn't you also use that colourful account to the start of ANY speedball type game? Yes, it is an opinion, and there is those people that do do it as stated by Paul, but to say everyone at every event like this, at every field? Isn't that like saying that every tourney player is a loud-mouth, ignorant juevinile that would cuss you out, instead of saying excuse me? But that's me...

5--PR: "Scenario teams whose members are identified by their custom matching T-shirt with nicknames like, 'Booger', Stone Cold', and 'Super Dave'. To the aging guys with golf-ball sized wads of Redman stuffed in their lower lips and faded tattoos who wheren't allowed to strap on their black anodized survival knifes to their thighs. And the smaller-than-you-think clique of combat-would-so-cool dipsticks living the dream while applying camo greasepaint to their faces with custom CAR-15 replica marers tucked in the crook of their arm. Along with the pseudo-tourney dorks wearing the latest stylin' fashions, clean and pressed, but can't figure out how to load a hopper or turn on their supergun."

6--First off, i did write this word for word, as proper English of the plural of knife is knives. If you see the article, look for yourself. I tell no lies on this quote, but i diegress. But the quote is from a man, that in the header to this article is known as Paul 'Baca Loco' Richards. Pretty freaking hypocritical if you ask me. But what of the other players, according to your unwriten opinion are "proper" players like, Rich "Franchise" Telford(which appears in the last article-Pro Gear, in his jersey plan to see). But I will also, say that I would call Rob Rubin, "Tyger", before using his first name, out of respect and as that is what he is known as, world wide.

7--But to my limited knowledge as I haven't been in the sport as long as some others, is that I have never seen anyone of Paul's discription. Yes, I know there have been players like this, just as there are the same type of people that are into D&D, Everquest, video games, but that is a small precentage that I wouldn't ever begin to say is the norm for genre. And though there is a market of mil-sim players, I don't care for them personally, but to say that they are dipsticks and all are wanna-be para-military fanatics? Someone please have Paul get his head from out of his ass. To each his or her own way. If you like the look of a mil-simed 98 or spyder or Mag, more power to you. its not my cup of tea, but I wouldn't put anyone down that likes them.

8--Though, Paul has remained clearly and consistantly direct in this article, of his opinion of scenario and big games. And though I can almost agree with that last sentence about the wanna-be tournament player in the woods, I do believe that Paul would rather have him sheltered in a more suitable setting, the speedball world. But also I do believe that a magazine not unlike this one, where the article was written in, is partly responsible for outfitting said youth with his hopper or supergun that he/she can't turn on. But what do I know, I don't write with a super inflated ego.

9--And the final quote. PR:"The one thing they all share in common is an unwillingness to actually leave the game when hit. Not suggesting that cheating is rampant. That would imply that the rules remain in effect, even when large numbers attempt to circumvent them. The usual standard is the rules are only in effect as long as a referee can see you."

10--Wow, isn't this the most common impression of tournaments, but with more crying? Yes, that is too harsh as people and teams have gone through games without cheating. But when you have some people that not only cheat, but blatantly and stylishly cheat(Markus Nielson and Chris Lasoya) and have nothing done to them on any level and even openly display this and have nothing happen to them(I may be wrong on this). Now, I have seen blatant cheating and in the woods, it sometimes are cases of "I shot to him and there is no way I could have missed him.", but might not have hit the target. We don't know, but I would think that if there is an obvious hit then that player should be honest and take themselves out. I've had hits where the ref saw but didn't take me out, and other times I had to point out the hit to the ref.

11--And yes, I know that this is one opinion of one person, but his righteous indignation is an afront to the sport that he, we belong to. I know that not everyone loves all aspects of paintball, but shouldn't someone have some cosideration of the entire public. Atleast when Robbo writes about something, he clearly states that it is his opinion and I respect him for that. Paul does no such thing, taking his article as a mantra for all that read it, to adore to and all that he talks about to repent and go to the light. I'm sorry, I can deal with arrogence, but not an egotistic, arrogant *******.

12--so, on word from Manike, I have posted this, as I can now speak with the source of this article. I do welcome the descussion.

Nobody
OMHW
Let me begin by saying--Mom, when I asked you to stop calling if all you were gonna do was criticize me I never expected you to sink to this level, but I still love you. You're not nobody to me.

As to the particulars--
1)I'm having a hard time figuring out how I managed to start okay as in first para I suggested woods play had a glacial game pace and would bore an Alabama wood tick and followed into the second para by equating scenario games to an outbreak of monkey virus or the plague. Perhaps if you had seen those as just a wee bit over the top it might have put the rest of the column in a different context.
2) Trash is such a harsh word. Why don't we say, use the expression, waste management, instead. Then it doesn't seem quite so harsh.
Seriously, since you missed the boat at the beginning I can understand why you were offended by the rest of the piece if you are a fan of, and enjoy, scenario play. Revisit the piece with the view that it is intended to exaggerate aspects of scenario gaming and you will, perhaps, see the truth of it without being too bent outta shape.
3--reads beautifully, I thought.
4--you might but I wouldn't. Speedball is played with limited numbers on a relatively small field so the result isn't in any way (my opinion) similar. Please note italicized bits as they will be relevant shortly.
5--another nice passage.
6--Re: knives. That's what editors are for. In Ant's defense I make so few mistakes he must'a overlooked that one under the unfair burden he must endure month after month in delivering to you the world's greatest PB mag. And, hey, if you spend your spare time looking for typos and the like try Facefull, they're full of them.
As to exactly what the point is I'm unclear but it should be noted I'm giving your post every consideration despite the plethora of tiny errors--as denoted by previously mentioned italicized bits above. (Got tired of highlighting them but there could be more.)
As to the Baca bit the purpose of that is to make it easy to identify me for any new visitors to P8ntballer who, like you, wish to present your concerns.
About Rich specifically I trashed his festive Euro-flash hair-do in my review last year of Tampa NPPL event. As to Tyg I guess since you're not using "baca" that must be a sign of your disrespect? Mom, how could you?
7--you should try the super-inflated ego sometime. I prefer it to the chip on the shoulder. Just so we're clear however let's break the offending comments down. At the average scenario game how many of the participants are also members of scenario teams? 10%. 15% maybe? Did you not notice the "smaller-than-you-think" modifier and what makes you think that description applies to all the mil-sim category of players? Geez, Mom, you seem to have gone out of your way to take offense. If it's 'cus you haven't yet figured out how to turn on your supergun I'm sure Manike can help. He knows a thing or two about 'em.
8--you might also think that if the editor of that magazine had taken your view of the piece he wouldn't have published it as it would have offended his general readership yet there it was.
9--makes me laugh every time but then I'm an easy audience.
10--first, check out hyperbole in the dictionary.
As it stands are you suggesting that 'cus something happens in Tourney ball it's somehow inappropriate or unacceptable to mention that it also happens in rec/scenario ball? Or that it's somehow ok in rec/scenario 'cus it happens in tourney? If that's what you're saying you might also want to revisit hypocrisy in the dictionary while you're checking out hyperbole.
11--from now on that's Mr. Loco to you, Mom. And it should be egotistical--not egotistic.
12--thanks, Simon. Someday, some way, I'll find the means to repay you. :D
To conclude--thanks for taking the time to vent here at P8ntballer. I, for one, am always happy to have peeps around with heartfelt opinions and the ability to communicate them. As to the whole diss the scenario guys silliness you've apparently missed the couple dozen times I've blasted the tourney kids for one thing and another--or else those didn't offend you. ;) Happy posting.
 

Buddha 3

Hamfist McPunchalot
Originally posted by Nobody
Buddha 3: the focus on "knifes" was not a slam on the author, since I had qouted his article, word for word in my post, i wanted to let people know that it was not I how mispelled the word. i blame the editor on this one, but what do i know, i seemed to miss the sarcasm in that.
Fair enough. But you might want to consider how you put finger to keyboard in the future. To me you seemed to indicate Paul can't even spell right, so his opinions would be worthless. As you say, that was not what you meant, but it is how you came across.

Paul has replied now, and as I predicted, it's all to be taken with a grain of salt. It's the only time he took on recball, and you fail to see the intentional sarcasm. He's had a go at tournament paintball every month more or less, yet I still don't hate him for it. (I hate him for very different reasons ;))

Still gotta work on your sarcasm skills a little...:p

Peace.